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KEVIN VECMANIS What Happens When Central Banks Unwind Balance Sheets

Kevin Vecmains the founder of VanAurum Financial Technologies sits down with Maurice Jackson of Proven and Probable to discuss: What Happens When Central Banks Unwind Balance Sheets.

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Source: Maurice Jackson for Streetwise Reports  (1/30/19)

Maurice JacksonKevin Vecmanis, founder of VanAurum Financial Technologies, sits down with Maurice Jackson of Proven and Probable to discuss what the unwinding of central bank balance sheets may mean for investors.

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Maurice J.: Joining us for a conversation is Kevin Vecmanis, the founder of VanAurum Financial Technologies. Mr. Vecmanis, welcome to the show, sir.
Kevin V.: Hello, Maurice. It’s great to be here. Thanks a lot.
Maurice J.: Glad to have you back on the program. In our last interview, we addressed the value proposition for the next capital vortex. Today, we will address central banks unwinding their balance sheets, and the duplicitous effects that may occur. And what actions you, the investor, may take to prepare yourself.
But before we begin, Kevin, your company uses a unique skill set that I find intriguing, which is artificial intelligence for investing. For our first time listeners, please introduce us to VanAurum Financial Technologies.
Kevin V.: VanAurum is an intelligent lead generator for trading opportunities. That’s probably the best way to summarize it. We use machine learning techniques to detect anomalies, and unusual market behavior and then we report on it to members on a daily basis.
Our platform attracts a global cross-section of sectors, ratios and economic data points. And then when something occurs that has some kind of historical precedent for being either positive or negative for forward returns, VanAurum will report on it to members.
We believe that by having an intelligent filter that’s hand-picking market events to look at, it frees up our members’ time to focus their efforts on more productive means, such as, constructing trading strategies and or analysis on their own. So if someone uses a charting service, or trades on technical analysis, VanAurum’s definitely worthy of membership consideration.
Maurice J.: Kevin, your research has noted a mega trend occurring that is related to central banks unwinding their balance sheets. Beginning at the 10,000-foot level, can you share with us why central banks are unwinding their balance sheets, and what this means for investors?
Kevin V.: Stepping back for a moment, in 2009, the Federal Reserve came up with an explicit program called Quantitative Easing, to buy mortgage-backed securities and other debt-related securities from the balance sheets of different institutions, and most central banks globally eventually caught on to this well, to bail out financial institutions in the sector that were carrying this “toxic debt” on their balance sheets.
The Fed conversely grew its balance sheet from about $800 billion to almost $4.5 trillion. And it was maintaining it at that level for a while. When the Fed is maintaining the size of its balance sheet with these debt-related securities what its intentions are as follows: as the securities mature on its balance sheet, it is actively seeking out other similar securities to buy to replace them, so that the Fed can keep the size of its balance sheet at a constant level.
So, the process of expanding the balance sheet, as well as maintaining it at a certain level, there was an implicit assumption in the market that the central bank was going to be there, and be a significant source of debt demand for a lot of these securities, which would be the primary driver behind interest rates ultimately hitting rock-bottom yields. The Fed was such a heavy influence on interest rates that, in January of 2018, the yield on the S&P 500 was about 1.73%. And the yield on the three-month Treasuries, which is considered to be the United States’ riskless asset, was higher than that.
The end result is that the S&P equity yields, which are considered to be risky assets on somebody’s balance sheet, or within their portfolio, these yields are essentially risk-free. Which is a really amazing thing if you think about it. A situation that is really unsustainable.
Going forward, the Fed has now communicated that it is going to shrink the size of its balance sheet. So in effect what that’s actually doing is removing a major source of demand out the market, for not only U.S. Treasuries, but other mortgage-backed securities as well. This is a simple supply and demand factor. The likelihood of supply and demand to equalize will not be accomplished until rates are much higher.
Maurice J.: I always find it disingenuous that the U.S. Treasury references the nominal rate of return and omits the real rate of return on Treasuries.
Twofold question here for you. How will this impact currencies and capital markets?
Kevin V.: We have witnessed the Fed go through hiking cycles in the past, typically any kind of economic turmoil that led to a flight to safe haven assets increased the demand for Treasuries and the U.S. dollar.
I am of the opinion that the Federal Reserve is in a bit of a tricky situation right now. And over time, more and more investors are going to actually start picking up on this. In a historical context, the level to which they’ve actually raised interest rates is not really that high. What is unprecedented is the extended period of time that the Fed has pinned along interest rates to zero. The Fed recognizes that it needs to raise rates because it has artificially suppressed interest rates, which were driving the yields on the S&P and of bonds respectively to disproportionate levels.
Should the market witness again that the Federal Reserve is willing to reverse course, by printing currency (inflation) to buy up a lot of assets and thus further expand its balance sheet again, I believe the market will react violently to the Fed’s attempts. I think this time around, the impact could actually be very negative on the U.S. dollar and Western currencies as investors will begin to realize maybe how unsustainable some of the debt trajectories actually are.
Maurice J.: If currencies and equities will be negatively impacted, what is the prudent investment decision that one should make now?
Kevin V.: In this situation, I like to look at what were the major beneficiaries within the broad markets when the Federal Reserve decided to embark down this path of explicit balance sheet expansion. And I guess the answer to that is bonds, equities, and to a large extent, real estate within major urban centers. So we’ve seen significant inflation in a lot of these markets. They were the major beneficiaries of what I call the risk premium compression that resulted from the Fed artificially lowering interest rates.
After the crisis everybody thought that commodities and other markets like that were going to go hyperbolic. But we actually didn’t see that. And, in my opinion, a lot of the reason why we didn’t see that was because the market was front running all these explicit purchases from the central bank. Why wouldn’t you buy bonds if you knew that the Federal Reserve was going to be buying, $30, $40 billion of them a month, on an open-ended basis.
So I think that drew a lot of capital away from resource sector stocks, from commodities. Any commodity, really. And so I think this time around, when we see this whole process unwinding, to me it only seems logical that the markets that were previous beneficiaries might suffer. Conversely, the markets that didn’t benefit we will start to see a lot of those begin to mean revert. I foresee big potential in platinum, gold, resource sector stocks and energy stocks, which have been punished to a significant degree, especially within the explorers and the producers, which experienced some of the sharpest declines in record.
So, I think it all depends on how the market decides to react with the U.S. dollar. Whatever it is, we get the next major trajectory change from the Federal Reserve. But my inkling, my instincts right now, and all the data that I look at with VanAurum and our research, suggests that the U.S. dollar will probably be negatively impacted the next time around.
Maurice J.: So then the answer will be, if I’m correct here, would physical gold be the first prudent investment decision?
Kevin V.: Yes, definitely at this point. I always advocate having some allocation to gold in your portfolio, especially right now with the debt-based currencies in the West really starting to balloon out of control. But there’s lots of fear in the market right now. We’ve experienced a significant correction on the S&P 500 and the broad equities. A lot of the valuation extremes that we saw leading up to this point was causing everybody to warn of bubbles. We’ve actually seen a fair amount of that lead off. And it’s come back into nominal territories.
I sent a message out to my members earlier this week saying that at this juncture, if the correction in the S&P 500 extends into bear market territory, closer to it being down 20%, which at that point, going back to 1980 within our data that VanAurum analyzes, most of the precedence, if not all of them, are actually positive for one-year returns going forward once the market has experienced a selloff greater than 20%.
So there could be draw downs in the broad equity market from here. In September 2008, the market ultimately fell 40% before hitting its ultimate bottom. And then exactly one year later, from September 2008, the market was almost unchanged again. So, could the market accelerate to the downside again, and resume a bear market? It’s likely. But at this point, I think prudent investors will start trying to anticipate some type of accumulation program for broad equities.
I have my attention on what I would term as the kind of the forgotten markets right now, like gold, which is carving out a multi-year base; platinum, which has been absolutely crushed recently; and silver are going to do extremely well in the environment that we’re about to move into.
Maurice J.: Regarding physical precious metals, would precious metal equities be the right place to be as well, once someone has secured a position first in the physical metals?
Kevin V.: Yes, full disclosure, I have long positions in GDX and GDXJ. With VanAurum, and my research, I study sectors. There are lots of people who are really good at picking individual issues. But when we’re working with our machine learning system, for reasons that maybe are beyond the subject of this interview, we try to stick with a sector. So, I do have exposure to the gold mining equities, through GDX and GDXJ.
Depending on what the investors are looking for, royalty companies and the gold streaming companies really tend to do well during downside turmoil in gold and equity markets. We saw companies like Franco-Nevada, whose stock performed incredibly well during the gold bear market from 2011 to 2015. Where you really get your upside leverage, in the gold mining and the resource space, is when you’re dealing with an issuer whose cost of production is really close to the prevailing gold price.
What happens there is you get profit leverage. So, if you have a gold mining company that’s selling gold for $1,200 an ounce, and say its all-in cost to produce that ounce of gold are $1,199. So it’s making $1 of profit. If the price of gold increases by a dollar, then the earnings for that particular company increased by 100%. So you go from $1 to $2, you double your earnings. And so that’s what we mean by profit leverage.
You start to see a lot of the high-cost companies really start to accelerate when you see gold moving into a particularly strong bull market. I think what’s happening right now is you’re seeing a lot of the accumulation, and a lot of the higher quality issuers, and they’ve been doing well for quite some time.
But the sectors like GDX and GDXJ, I think have been languishing partly because they’re full of lots of producers that a lot of them haven’t been particularly well in this environment. But I think that will change if gold can stage a major breakout. I think you’ll see a bid under, pretty much any company that’s producing gold. And stage a breakout, and sustain it above $1,400 US.
Maurice J.: Switching gears, Mr. Vecmanis, what is the next unanswered question that VanAurum Technologies is researching? And when do you believe we will have an answer?
Kevin V.: Right now, to me the elephant in the room are interest rates, and how the market is fully going to react to the Federal Reserve removing itself as a major demand source in the debt markets. So, it seems to me like there’s a little bit of disbelief. You’re starting to see two-year Treasury yields, which is a fairly close proxy for interest rate hike expectations, you’ve seen a lot of those rates come down recently. Some of that might have been because the yields were overbought. And the bonds were due for a rally.
But to me that really is the biggest question, because the Federal Reserve was such a huge component of this equity rally that we had from 2009 until now. And I think whatever its action will be is going to be a major component of how the market plays out going forward. You can see the market starting to begin to call its bluff. But what I’m really interested in finding out is what the Federal Reserve actually intends to do. If the markets truly start to react violently to the rate hike cycle, it is going to end it? And is the Fed going to start to ease again, meaning increasing the size of its balance sheet. Or is it going to start cutting rates?
I think if the Fed starts cutting rates, having only reached the levels that they’re at, I think that’s going to be a really, really scary warning sign to market participants everywhere that the U.S. economy just can’t handle higher rates and has become almost addicted to Federal Reserve accommodation. And I think at that point, how the market reacts to that is going to be the primary determinant of which people are going to make a lot of money, and which people are going to lose a lot of money. And I think we’ll have the answer to that probably by the summertime.
Maurice J.: Truly interesting times, and unprecedented times. And I’m tickled to death to be here just to watch it all, and actually participate. Sir, last question. What did I forget to ask?
Kevin V.: I think we covered a lot, Maurice. But, I’d like to discuss a little bit about VanAurum’s AI curated newsletter that we put out daily. The core of our research service that we offer right now is our daily AI curated report, which is a combination of human and machine learning and behavior. So, I’m a big believer fundamentally in the convergence of machine learning-based systems and human-based systems. I believe the people and machines are really good at particular things. And what I try to do at VanAurum is to create workflows that combine the best of those worlds.
The AI curated report analyzes a global cross-section of assets, whether it’s Chinese stocks, Israeli stocks, resource sector stocks, yield curves and economic data points. And it figures out when something is behaving unusual in the market. It performs some hypothesis testing on it, to see if there’s any historical precedent for meaningful positive or negative returns. And then it presents that in a report to our members. And that’s kind of the launch point for the analysis that we do.
So, we’re getting this pipeline of trading and investment suggestions coming from VanAurum daily, which are really high quality. Our members love it. The feedback I get from the members is that it’s exposing them to things in markets that they wouldn’t have thought to look at before, which is really what it’s all about.
Maurice J.: For readers that want to get more information about VanAurum Financial Technologies report, please share the contact details with us.
Kevin V.: Sure. Readers and listeners can visit vanaurum.ai. And we have a public version of the report, which is delayed a certain number of days, to keep our best information fresh for our members. But if they’re interested in how that report works, there’s a link on our homepage to the public report. And they can also take a look at the other services that we offer as well.
Maurice J.: And we would like to take this opportunity to remind our listeners, if you’re interested in buying or selling physical precious metals, please call us at 855-505-1900. Or visit our website, provenandprobable.com, where we interview the most respected names in the natural resource space. You may reach us at contact@provenandprobable.com.
Kevin Vecmanis of VanAurum Financial Technologies, thank you for joining us today on Proven and Probable.
Maurice Jackson is the founder of Proven and Probable, a site that aims to enrich its subscribers through education in precious metals and junior mining companies that will enrich the world.

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PETER BELL Silver Nickel Company: Blue ocean with patented claims in Arizona

Is there an untapped market opportunity around premium mineral exploration ground in the USA covered by patented claims? I understand the fact that good land can be staked or optioned for cheap, but I wonder if some premium land is worth the premium?

For example, Northern Vertex (TSXV:NEE) launched Phase 1 operations at the Moss Mine on a package of patented claims in Arizona approximately 100 hectares in size. They are planning to produce for approximately 5 years at approximately +35Koz Au per year on that ground, with an open pit and heap leach all fit snugly onto that 100 hectare footprint.

See my interview with Bill Martinich, Mine Manager, where we discuss all this looking at an aerial photo of the site. https://ceo.ca/@Newton/15-minutes-with-bill-martinich-mine-manager-nee-northern-vertex

What is that package of patented group where NEE launched Phase 1 worth?

I suggest that patented claims in mining-friendly states like Arizona are a particular class of mineral exploration assets that deserve a premium. The devil’s in the details for exploration properties, but the Silver Nickel Mining Company have assembled such a portfolio and it’s worth a close look.
The Silver Nickel Company is not a prospect generator for the Howe Street public markets, but they have assembled a portfolio of patented claims in Arizona, USA. This is a great place for mining, as with the example of the Moss Mine.
What’s more, Silver Nickel has some interesting ideas about acquiring land that could be resold residential development. That raises some questions about the ability to build a mine there in the future, but it’s an interesting idea that makes me think bold real estate investment companies could take an interest here. However, I am thinking primarily about people who understand and invest in mine exploration and development when I talk to the Silver Nickel guys, as in our interview here, https://ceo.ca/@newton/newtoninterviews-silver-nickel-co-patented-claim-holders-in-arizona
I’ve introduced Silver Nickel to several public companies and the answer is consistently the same: the claims are too small and expensive. I understand the person who said, “The million $ price tag for exploration ground is probably something we would not take on.” but I wonder why? Surely there’s exploration ground in Arizona that’s worth millions of dollars? Maybe people are scared off by the large amount of data-verification that would be required to get these projects ready for prime-time? Maybe I haven’t found the right buyer yet.
There must be investors out there who can imagine the potential of what Silver Nickel Company has and are willing to bring expertise necessary to determine if that potential is something worth exploring? It’s a long and winding road, but some people are keen to strike out on it.
If you dig even deeper into the Silver Nickel story, then you will find that they have developed a sleuthing process to pick good patented claims off the garbage pile. They know how to navigate tax offices and the foreclosure process in a way that takes years of time and effort, but allows them to secure ownership of things like the Moss Mine for very little cost. The intellectual property in that and their geological understanding of Arizona alone could be very valuable to the right group who seeks to understand and help the John Rothermel and Neal Hawkins.

Watch our interview above for more.
John and Neal said in the interview that they’ve run the Silver Nickel Company as if it was their own money, because it was. I think they’ve built something special here and see great potential to use what they’ve done to seed public companies with great exploration projects. Easier said than done!

Please contact me on CEO.CA if you would like to discuss all this further and watch for some field footage from an intrepid young geologist I met who may make the trek to run around a few of the prospects with John in Arizona this summer.

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CALIBRE MINING Exploring for World-Class Gold, Silver and Copper Deposits in Nicaragua

Ryan King, Vice President Corporate Development of Calibre Mining sits down with Maurice Jackson of Proven and Probable to discuss the value proposition on their flagship Borosi Project covering over a massive land position of 800 square kilometers in Nicaragua.Today’s interview is the most comprehensive interview to date on Calibre Mining. The Borosi Project hosts the Eastern Borosi, Siuana, La Luz, and Primavera projects, which Mr. King will discuss in great detail, along with the relationship and contractual obligations of Calibre Mining’s Joint Venture partners (Centerra Gold, IAMGold, Rosita Mining)on these projects respectively. We discuss in detail each member of the Board of Directors, Management, and Technical team, which is comprised of a number of key members of the recent success of Newmarket Gold, which recently went from a $10 Million Market Cap to $1 Billion Market Cap and was sold to Kirkland Lake Gold . Finally, we will delve into the capital structure of Calibre Mining. Important to note, Calibre Mining has $0 Debt, and a Management and Board with proven success of optionality and arbitrage.

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Exploring for World-Class Gold, Silver and Copper Deposits in Nicaragua 
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Source: Maurice Jackson for Streetwise Reports  (1/16/19)

Maurice JacksonRyan King, vice president of corporate development at Calibre Mining, sits down with Maurice Jackson of Proven and Probable to discuss his company’s joint ventures, exploration in Nicaragua and strategic plans.

Maurice Jackson: Joining us today is Ryan King. He is the vice president, corporate development, of Calibre Mining Corp. (CXB:TSX.V; CXBMD:OTC), which is exploring for world-class gold, silver and copper deposits in Nicaragua.
For someone new to the story, who is Calibre Mining and what is the thesis you’re attempting to prove?

Ryan King: Calibre Mining’s thesis is twofold. One, we’re exploring for world-class discoveries in Nicaragua. We just had over 8 million ounces of produced gold in this district that we’re exploring.
Second, we believe Nicaragua provides optionality right now for our shareholders. Our team has a proven track record of successfully acquiring, advancing, optimizing and selling projects. Recently, Calibre has gone through a restructuring. We’ve added some new people to our team. We are trying to duplicate what we’ve done in our last deal called New Market Gold. That is go out and buy advanced stage development or producing gold opportunities and optimize those operations, spend money on them, drill them, find more resources, and potentially we’d love to merge or sell the company after we’ve spent some time adding value to the company.

Maurice Jackson: You referenced Nicaragua. Provide us with some historical context on the region in which your project portfolio is located.
Ryan King: For those who don’t know, Nicaragua does have a bit of a checkered past. It’s gone through different political situations, it’s gone through different civil war during the 1950s and 1960s. There is a significant period of time where there was no mineral exploration. It was a country that was difficult to work in.
However, over the years, we’ve seen gold developers and gold producers go there, Falconbridge and others, and there’s been some great gold development. There’s been some great gold production. We have a couple projects around us, and actually within portfolio, that has produced multi-million ounces, produced copper. But it has been underexplored for a number of decades.

One of the virtues of Calibre Mining is that we are on the Ring of Fire, a well-known phrase that’s used within the geological and mining community known for hosting large copper-gold deposits.
Calibre was able to pick up this land package from Yamana in 2009, which had recently done some restructuring. I believe it had recently merged with a company back in 2007, 2008. After the merger Yamana was looking at doing different things. There was no production in the portfolio there in Nicaragua currently or was there any at the time that we had fired these. These are just exploration projects around and within concessions that has seen historical production.
Maurice Jackson: Calibre’s flagship Borosi project has district-scale discovery potential in Nicaragua. Where are your projects located and how much of the land position does Calibre have there?

Ryan King: The projects are located in northeast Nicaragua. We take a flight into Managua, which is the capital of Nicaragua. We then take a flight that is run daily from Managua up to either Rosita or to Bonanza. Borosi actually is originated from Bonanza-Rosita, and so three towns, the three mining and mineral exploration towns, in our concessions. That’s where Borosi comes from.
Our land package is vast, covering over 800 square kilometers. Noteworthy to mention, we’ve brought in some significant partners, Iamgold, Centerra Gold, and Rosita Mining, to help us advance our projects and explore the numerous targets that we have.
Maurice Jackson: Mr. King, we’ve covered some good background. Walk us through your flagship Borosi project.

Ryan King: The flagship project is located in northeast Nicaragua. We have 400 square kilometers 100% owned in these concessions. They are all butting to or very closely adjacent to each other. We have a joint venture with a small junior called Rosita Mining. This joint venture is a past-producing skarn deposit that produced over 300 million pounds of copper.

We have a joint venture, which is now 51%-49%; 51 for Iamgold, 49% owned by Calibre. This is with Iamgold. Iamgold is now currently drilling on low sulfidation epithermal vein discoveries. It has an option to go up to 70%.
Then on the Siuna Gold project, we have an option earn-in with Centerra Gold. Centerra as well can earn in to 70%, very close to its 51%, its first earn-in. It is exploring for large copper-gold porphyry systems. It’s also exploring for skarn deposits. That’s exactly what the La Luz past-producing mine was, a skarn deposit, at least over 2 million ounces of gold.
Maurice Jackson: Expanding the narrative on your project portfolio, Calibre Mining has low sulfidation epithermal gold-silver deposits. What has the company excited here?
Ryan King: You brought up low sulfidation epithermal deposits, and that’s exactly what we’re seeing over tens of kilometers based on the geochem anomalies, based on the Lidar surveys that have been done with Iamgold on the eastern Borosi concessions. What gets us excited here is just the vast amount of underexplored nature of this region.

What gets us excited is the fact that quite often when we do our geochemical analysis and we identified new anomalies, we’re seeing a good correlation to the drill results anytime we’ve had good geochem anomalies on surface, and that would be an identification of a gold-silver vein. Quite often underneath that, we are finding high-grade gold over 1 up to 15 meters of width.
For an underground type gold system, I would say, at a bare minimum, what you’re looking for is something between 2 and 5 meters running anywhere from 4 to 8 grams per ton gold in gold equivalent. That’s going to get you, we believe, a very good identification of a good underground gold system.
The nice thing about these epithermal veins is they’re outcropping quite often, and so we’re able to identify them on surface. On a preliminary engineering basis, what we could see here on some of these systems is that you have potentially a small open pit that would transition into an underground ore body.
The nice thing about what we have here at eastern Borosi is we have numerous veins swarming as well as parallel veins that you could see a multiphased, multi-ounce production scenario from a small distance. Yet over and over, we’re seeing tens of kilometers of strike length, tens of kilometers of parallel veins. We think there’s a huge amount of opportunity to expand on the current 800,000-ounce resource that we have identified there.
Maurice Jackson: Before we leave the La Luna Gold-Silver Deposit, we have some news. Can you share the details with us?
Ryan King: Absolutely. We announced some additional drill results with our partner Iamgold, which has been a very solid partner. It has been continuing to earn in annually. We run the program there. We identify the targets and then we work with Iamgold to confirm that we should proceed and drill a number of these targets.
We announced 8.7 meters, grading 6.8 grams per ton gold equivalent, as well as 4.5 meters grading 7.29 grams per ton gold equivalent. These are some of the highlights, but that meshes in very nicely with what I was just mentioning in terms of widths, in terms of grade, what you’re looking for in these types of systems. One of these, I believe it’s the 4.4 meters grade, 7.2 grams per ton gold, is a brand new discovery that we’ve made there!
This is north of our La Luna resource, about a hundred meters. We’ve also identified a long strike and about 400 meters to the north. On surface, we’re seeing excellent geochemical anomalies running multi-ounces on surface. We believe that this could lead to quite an extension to the zone and very likely and potentially a good size increase in resources when we do calculate resources. This is all outside of current 2018 43-101 resources that we did earlier in the year. Calibre is very encouraged by this and we think this is going to be a very beneficial impact to the company going into 2019.
Maurice Jackson: Last but not least, Calibre Mining has the largest gold skarn deposit in the district, the La Luz Deposit. Walk us through the deposit.

Ryan King: Calibre has never operated the La Luz, which was operated decades ago. But one of the big, important aspects of any sort of mineral exploration is to go and discover and explore around past-producing districts and past-producing gold mines. What brought us here and what got us excited about this is the potential at La Luz.
La Luz was a past-producing gold mine, producing over 2 million ounces of gold and, from all documentation we read, was very profitable. This started at surface. This was a high-grade skarn system that was started by very large trenches and morphed into a high-grade underground gold mine.
Now I can’t remember the exact year that this happened, but the hydro dam broke and flooded the mine. If I recall, there was hundreds of thousands of ounces down below where they had finished their mining and stopped mining due to the flooding. There’s probably north of 500,000 ounces that could be mineable ounces below where the mine is currently stopped and, of course, flooded now.
Myself, our executive chairman, Russell Ball, and Greg Smith were just in Nicaragua. We drove by this. It’s right on the edge of town. Again, these are past-producing mines. These towns, in this case Siuna, is very familiar with gold mining or any mining of that nature, very mining-friendly locations.
What we have done over the last little while, instead of dewatering and trying to get back in there and mine, is look for additional resources outside and around La Luz. Could you dewater it? I think that’s quite a potential. Could you then get back in there underground and start to look for more ounces? As I mentioned, there were hundreds of thousands of ounces left by the previous miner.
But what we’ve focused on over the last little while is trying to find and identify additional skarn deposits in and around La Luz. We do currently have, adjacent to La Luz, a 750,000-ounce gold resource. We’ve been doing some drilling around that. We’ve been doing some drilling down strike from that as well in the Huracan district where approximately a couple of kilometers down strike to the south, we’ve had some good what looks like porphyry type mineralization coming into the system.
Lots of potential in and around La Luz. Again, our partner there is Centerra Gold. We’re getting close to a 51%–49% joint venture now, and it has an option to earn in to 70%. We’ve been drilling a number of targets, not only Cerro Aeropuerto but a number of targets along the whole 253 square kilometers that is auctioned to Centerra Gold. We’ll see where we decide to drill next year. There’s just so many different targets along this whole trend that look interesting to both Centerra and ourself.
Maurice Jackson: Mr. King, we’ve referenced three different deposits and three different joint venture partners. A multilayered question here. Is there active drilling on all three of these deposits and what is the predominant relationship with the joint venture partners? Is that their focus only is to drill?
Ryan King: Actively, right now we have two diamond drills turning with Iamgold, and have been just about the whole year, on the eastern Borosi concessions.
As a reminder, eastern Borosi has over 800,000 ounces identified in an Inferred 43-101 resource. Over the course of 2018, drill results come out that are all predominantly outside of those resources, so two drills turning all year and currently have two drills turning. We just spit out the results today from the La Luna Gold project, where we’ve identified new mineralization outside of the current resources.
Earlier in the year, we identified a project in the Borosi concessions with Iamgold called Veta Loca, which is outside our resources. There we drilled 7.4 meters grading 9.7 grams per ton gold equivalent. We identified new zones outside of resources at La Sorpresa or Cadillac, where we drilled 4.1 meters grading 10.5 grams per ton gold equivalent.
A lot of activity with Iamgold is underway. There’s just so many different targets on the eastern Borosi concessions. That’s where Iamgold has earned in the 51%. It has the option by spending another $5 million to earn into 70%. As well, in our 100%-owned ground, Calibre drilled a couple of different targets, the San Francisco target, the San Isidro target, all around Primavera.

Primavera is a very classic copper-gold porphyry system. These porphyry systems are lower grade, but they can get to be very, very large, hundreds and hundreds, if not billions, of tons of mineralization running between 0.2 and 0.8, 0.9, one gram per ton, if not more, gold, and anywhere from 0.2 and up for percent copper.
We are drilling what looks to be a 25-square-kilometer porphyry district area that have a number of signatures that look similar to Primavera. This year, I believe we drilled about 20 to 30 holes. We have identified lower grade mineralization over long widths, but we haven’t gotten into a new higher grade system. Currently, we’re not drilling. We did a grill program this year. That is approximately 2,000 meters.
What the plan is for Primavera and our 100%-owned district now is we have identified numerous targets. We’ve just recently gone through a corporate restructuring. What we’ll very likely do at this stage is now that we’ve dressed it up and, as I mentioned, identified a number of targets, we’ll look to bring in a partner, very likely, on Primavera or Minnesota.
We’ve recently raised $5 million. We’re looking at a bit of a strategic shift within the company, not just explore in Nicaragua but because we have a very well-known team, look to acquire additional opportunities for advanced stage gold or production opportunities. We’ll look for a partner on Primavera and some of our 100%-owned projects.
Centerra is spending $9 million to earn into 70% on the 253-square-kilometer Siuna concessions. What they’re looking for, again, are these big copper-gold porphyry system, multi-element porphyry systems. We did drill up in the northern part of our district at El Avion. We’re waiting for drill results from that.
We are currently drilling right now, so there’s activity on the ground with Centerra right now. It is drilling a project called the Roskilete, which is around the center of the concession. These are all drilling following up on geochemical anomalies that have been identified. The whole almost 253-square-kilometer land package had been sampled for gold, silver, copper, and looking for concentrations on surface, and then following up with drilling.
Centerra right now is drilling the Roskilete gold-copper target, and we hope to have results probably in early 2019. There’s still a lot of activity happening.
Maurice Jackson: Ryan, for someone that is not familiar with the mining jurisdiction in Nicaragua, tell us about it. Also, share with us how is the company positioned as far as permitting?

Ryan King: That is a very important question when you’re looking at investing in exploration companies. If a company can find multimillion ounces, but can’t advance those multimillion ounces to a mine and production, it’s worthless to the investor. A very good question.
Calibre has been in Nicaragua since 2009. One of the reasons we chose to go to Nicaragua and specifically chose to acquire the Bonanza and Borosi concessions is largely because this is a past-producing district. This is a mining district that has produced over 8 million ounces of gold, 300 million pounds of copper.
These towns of Bonanza, Siuna and Rosita are very familiar with mining. In fact, one of our partners, Rosita Mining, has been doing months and months of work to advance a permit in these concessions on the Rosita concessions that we’re in joint venture with. It has recently received its permits to build a treatment plant that will process all the past stockpiles from the originally producing Rosita mine.
Because of the past production nature, these towns are very familiar with mining. Actually, for the local artisanal miners, it’s very important for them, and mining there where they’re following some veins and chipping away at some rocks and pulling out some more. It’s important for them and part for their lives to find mineralization.
As long as you can work very closely with these communities, and we have been closely working with these communities for a number of years now, you build up long-term relationships. We also have a very connected and well-known person that works with us, Angelica, who has been in-country, I believe, most of her life, working with these different villages and communities that we’re involved with. It’s really taking the time and educating, talking about socio-economic benefits, working with local communities on a daily basis really.
That’s what it takes for drilling permits as well. It’s not just permitting to build or permitting to advance a project towards production, it’s also a very strict mining law in Nicaragua, which is, I believe, very important. They’ve never bent the rules, they’ve never changed the rules since we’ve been there. I think this is important because they’re following very strictly to the code of conduct and the mining law that they have in place.
That might speak to the president. President Daniel Ortega, was the son of a miner. I can’t recall exactly which mine he was born at, but it was either La Libertad or El Limon. Those are the two main gold mines in the country. Those two gold mines produce between 100,000 and 150,000 ounces of gold a year, and they have for decades and decades. They’re owned by B2Gold, our largest shareholder. B2Gold owns 12% of Calibre Mining.
The country is very familiar with mining. It’s a very significant contributor to GDP. I believe it was somewhere between 3% and 4%. The gold helped the economy and growth in GDP. But the important aspect here is that they do follow their mining law very closely. For drilling, you need to go through consultation with community. You need to apply for permits for drilling. They need to come out and check the sites. We work with the communities, regulators, making sure that we’ve done all of our consultation work and CSR work.
They do follow that very closely, and we think that’s great. We think that’s very important. Never at one time have we had any issues in-country with getting permits, renewing concessions, anything like this. We believe, so far, it’s been a good place for us to do mineral exploration.
Maurice Jackson: Very favorable response here. Tell us about existing infrastructure and what this means for shareholders regarding capital expenditures.
Ryan King: Another good aspect about advancing a project to become a mine. Very similarly, if you have no relationship with communities, then you can’t advance a project with community support. Very similar to infrastructure. If there’s no infrastructure around and infrastructure needs to be built by government or by companies, it’s going to take a lot longer.
Luckily, in Nicaragua, a lot of different advances have been made over the years. I believe the current president, Daniel Ortega, has done a good job of building infrastructure and has expanded foreign investment into the country. Actually, to bring that up, there has been a Chinese group that has been doing engineering work and evaluation work on building a new canal through Nicaragua. I believe they’ve already spent upwards of $1 billion to look at a way to bring a canal through Nicaragua, through one of their very large lakes they have in Central Nicaragua there.
That indicates, first, that foreign investment is welcome. Second, one of the exploding industries in Nicaragua has been tourism. You talk to different people around the world, and Nicaragua has become a vacation destination. New hotels have gone up, new resorts are there. It’s become a place very much like Costa Rica where people want to go and vacation. It’s a big surfing town outside of Managua. There’s been a lot of different foreign investment in real estate and development and hotels.
On that topic, in terms of infrastructure, our CEO, Greg Smith, has been to Nicaragua for years. He was there early 1990s, and he recalls the roads being very terrible, very difficult, long, long bumpy roads. Whereas now he’s noticed a very vast difference in a lot of the roads have been paved, a lot of the roads have been fixed. Road infrastructure has changed drastically for the better, from Managua all the way up to the northeast Nicaragua where our projects are, so excellent roads.
Additionally, he’s noticed now all of the communities, Rosita, Bonanza, Siuna, are on the hydroelectric grid, and they’re continually upgrading. We noticed when we were just there brand new power lines. It’s just a matter of stringing those lines up to the power grid and they’ll have brand new power.
You could see all of the developments that are happening there, the pro developments that are happening there. I believe it’s to help attract foreign investment into the country and connect all of the different communities to the electrical grid within Nicaragua. From that standpoint, I believe the current administration has done a very good job of advancing their infrastructure, even though Nicaragua is one of the, if not the second, poorest country in Central America.
Maurice Jackson: Mr. King, before we discuss the management team, are there any reversionary interest and/or royalties on the Borosi project?
Ryan King: Yes, there are. To the government, there’s a 3% royalty. On our 100%-owned Primavera project, I believe it’s 1% or 1.5% additional royalty to B2Gold. Other than the government’s 3% royalty and I think a 27% or 30% tax rate, nothing else.
Maurice Jackson: Any reversionary interest, sir?
Ryan King: No.
Maurice Jackson: Okay. Are there any redundant asset such as a patent mining claim?
Ryan King: No.
Maurice Jackson: All right. You’ve referenced this before, but just for the record, what is management’s philosophy? Are you looking to build a mine or arbitrage?

Ryan King: This is an important question for current and prospective shareholders. I think this dovetails very well with our strategic plan. Everyone on our management team and our board of directors has been involved in mining for decades. This team has been involved with discovery of multimillion-ounce deposits through acquisition. They have been involved in raising significant hundreds of millions of dollars in capital. Furthermore, they have been involved in development-stage projects that go on to feasibility study and then become a mine. Lastly, they have been involved in royalty companies that have gone on to transactions that seek financial windfalls for shareholders.

Very recently, the majority of our team was involved with a company called Newmarket Gold. Newmarket Gold was a large portion of our team on Calibre Mining. Newmarket went out and acquired three producing gold mines. These gold mines were located in Australia. At the time, Newmarket had an exploration project in Newfoundland, in Canada.
The beginning part of 2015, we felt that the opportunity with the landscape of the gold producers and the gold price, roughly around $1100 gold at that time, was the right time to go out and acquire production and hopefully find ways to optimize them.
We did that. We found three producing gold mines in Australia, one of which was called Fosterville. In each one of these mines, we had recognized that not a lot of capital and not a lot of exploration work had gone into some of these mines. We immediately talked to all of the local and ground geologists. There were numerous targets. We immediately deployed a program of exploration drilling on each one of these projects, and we had success. We found very high-grade extensions, particularly to the Fosterville Gold Mine.
We advanced that on, grew the resource, optimized the mine, and went on and did a merger with Kirkland Lake Gold. Kirkland Lake Gold has been one of the darlings in the gold space, if you can find a bright spot in a difficult market. Kirkland Lake has had well over 200% and 250% returns for shareholders since that transaction. A lot of it has to do with Fosterville. This Fosterville mine has become a very high-grade underground gold mine that is producing well over 200,000 ounces of gold a year, a very low cash cost. It’s been an incredible win for our shareholders.
This team, what we’d like to do, again, is, because we feel now is the time to be acquiring either producing or very advanced stage gold opportunities, we think now is the time just because the disinterest in the sector. The gold price has not been bad. We’re sitting around over $1,200 gold. But the price to net asset value in so many of these different seniors and mid-tier gold producers is very low, multiyear lows. We think it’s a great opportunity to take advantage of, if we can acquire the right deal with the right capital structure.
Maurice Jackson: Short term, we’re looking at optionality and, long term, we’re looking at arbitrage. Is that correct, sir?
Ryan King: Yes, if we can execute on our plan, which I believe we will, there’s optionality in Nicaragua and we have over 2 million ounces of defined resources there, we have great partners. Then at the same time if this management team and board of directors can execute and acquire quality opportunities, we think, yes, this is going to be a great arbitrage opportunity.
Maurice Jackson: Switching gears, I learned from some of the most serially successful in the industry, ranging from Rick Rule, Doug Casey, Jayant Bhandari, Mickey Fulp and Bob Moriarty, that the people running the business are equally, if not more, important than the latent material in the ground. Mr. King, please introduce us to your board of directors and management team and the unique skill sets they bring to Calibre Mining.

Ryan King: First and foremost, Russell Ball our executive chairman, comes from Newmont and Goldcorp, really ingrained into the business for decades. He was the chief financial officer at Goldcorp most recently. He’s now our executive chairman. Now that we’ve restructured the company, we’ve recently gone through restructuring, we raised $5 million, 45 million shares out, approximately, today, December 2018, market capitalization of $15 million. It aligns with our plan of going out and buying production or acquiring production through the Goldcorps of the world, mid-tiers, seniors. Hopefully, we’ll find a way to find the right opportunity.
Russ is a fantastic addition to the team and huge relationships within this business, and absolutely knowledgeable, intelligent gentleman that knows what he’s doing. Douglas Forster, Masters of Science in Economic Geology, Doug is brilliant at merging the science and resource aspect of companies with capital markets.
Doug has been very successful with the Hunter-Dickson Group, Bob Hunter and Bob Dickinson, way back in the 1980s where they discovered Mount Milligan, a big copper-gold system, and went on to sell that and numerous other projects in 2006 and bought back the Mount Milligan project that been undeveloped, advanced it through permitting and feasibility study, and then sold Thompson Creek.
His most recent success, one of the founders and president/CEO of Newmarket Gold that went on to sell for a little over a billion dollars to Kirkland Lake. Huge, huge asset within this company. One of the primary reasons that I’m part of this company and part of this group is because of Doug. His experience, his expertise and track record speaks for itself.
His partner and director, Blayne Johnson. Both Doug and Blayne are founders of Calibre. They were also both founders of Newmarket Gold. As I mentioned, we were very successful there going on and at advancing gold production towards a place where we felt it was value-add to merge with another company, Kirkland Lake. Kirkland is now a $5 billion company and I would say one of the darlings in the business.
Blayne was a stockbroker for many years, raised hundreds of thousands of millions of dollars for different publicly traded companies. Blayne is now working with Doug there. They’re partners looking for new opportunities to acquire advanced gold development or gold production. Blayne also brings a huge Rolodex of relationships within the business.
Doug Hurst was one of the founders of International Royalties that’s sold to Royal Gold, and years ago did very well on that. Of course, Doug is also one of the founders of Newmarket Gold. An incredible geologist within our group. Very analytical. Doug looks at projects, looks at spreadsheets. He was an analyst within the business for many years.
Ed Farrauto, also one of the founders of Terrain Metals, which was, in 2006, acquired the copper-gold Mount Milligan project. He’s also one of the founders, with Doug and Blayne and Doug Hurst, of Newmarket Gold. Incredible, again, relationships and knowledge within the regulatory space and corporate governance.
George Salamis, as some of your listeners well may know, is the founder of Integra Resources. He was the chairman of Integra Gold. I’m not sure, I might have had those flipped around. I can’t remember Integra. But George, yes, we very closely work with George over the years. George, of course, sold Integra to Eldorado for well north of $400 million, I believe. Again, somebody that’s been in the business for many years. He’s a geologist and understands capital market space and, of course, has eyes and ears within the industry, looking for opportunities.
It’s a very well-connected board. I didn’t mention Greg, but Greg Smith is a geologist. He’s been working in Latin America, Central America for decades. One of the companies he had incredible success with geologically and on the ground was with Rusoro Mining. Rusoro had the gold projects in Venezuela. Unfortunately, Venezuela didn’t work out so well. However, Greg went on to find tens of millions of ounces there in Venezuela.
He has really a track record of being able to find multimillion-ounce deposits. He’s very much one of the geologists that’s probably, from what I’ve known in my 15 years in this business, one of the best at finding new discoveries and advancing and finding more resources. We’re doing that as you can see in Nicaragua.
I will just mention one other individual, a strategic advisor, he’s on our strategic advisory board, Darren Hall. Darren comes with decades of experience with Newmont. He was the chief operating officer with us at Newmarket Gold. He was overseeing thousands of employees when he was at Newmont in Australia. I think he was the general manager of Boddington, one of the larger open pit underground gold mines in Australia. Darren is very willing to roll his sleeves and work with us again on the next new opportunity that we come across. We’re privileged to have somebody of his expertise work with us again on, hopefully, will be a Newmarket, too, scenario.
Maurice Jackson: Tell us about Ryan King. What makes him qualified for the task at hand?
Ryan King: It’s sometimes difficult to look in the mirror and answer that question. I’ve been in this business now for a better part of 15 years. I started back in 2003. Right out of the gate, I was privileged enough to be able to work with Doug Forster, an ex-Placer Dome team that had been through, of course, production and development scenarios. One of the first companies that I really got ingrained into was a company called Terrain Metals.
I’ve got a business degree, but I was able to learn on the ground, in the office through geologists, through engineers, through CSR specialists how to really take an operation, optimize it, advance it through the permitting stages, advance it through all the financing hurdles that you need to go through to build a mine. Throughout my career, I’ve spent days on the road with different CEOs with different skill sets. I believe that I’ve really learnt what works and what doesn’t work in terms of opportunities within the space, what people are attracted to, what people like, and then, very interestingly, when things turn, when markets turn, when there’s wind in our sails, when to allocate more capital to get the story out.
So I have 15 years of experience on the ground. Luckily, I’ve been involved in two acquisitions; one, the Terrain Metals, which we sold to Thompson Creek for $750 million in 2010. Then another big success was Newmarket Gold that we sold for a little over a billion dollars. Both of which I was ingrained right from the beginning.
I’ve worked very closely with the whole team and really trying to unlock value, getting the story out on different channels institutionally, helping raise capital, retail, and then any different ways to add value through corporate development, through new relationship, through strategic alliances and strategic shareholders. That’s my skill set. Yes, I think just basically the experience over the last 15 years and seeing the value that we look for in particular assets and merging that with capital markets is one of my strengths.
Maurice Jackson: It’s one of those unique intangibles that you have an opportunity to be with that intellectual capital behind the scenes is something that you don’t learn in the world of academia. You just have to be there. What can you share with us about the technical team?
Ryan King: I touched on the technical team briefly, particularly Greg and his skill set on the ground. Greg is the president and CEO currently of Calibre Mining. He has been since I believe it was 2010. Again, very experienced geologist. He oversees all of the technical aspects, geological aspects of the project. He’s got his fingers in every piece of the puzzle.
In Nicaragua, Greg is very ingrained in looking at new opportunities, looking at geological potential, the outside potential. Very much on the ground. As I mentioned, we were just in Nicaragua. Greg, our executive chairman Russel Ball, and myself, we were kicking rocks, meeting the drillers, reviewing geological maps and potential.
In-country, we have a very seasoned project geologist, Marc Cianci, who was with Barrick for a number of years, left, and started working with us in Nicaragua. He’s our number one ex-pat that lives and works in Nicaragua full time. Excellent geologist, has helped us identify new discoveries and grow resources there.
I mentioned Doug Forster, an incredible database of knowledge this gentleman brings with his experience over decades of looking at different projects, see what works, what could work, what doesn’t work. Being a masters of economic geology adds a lot of value, but then being able to merge that with the capital markets aspect and what could help unlock further value is such a tremendous tool.
Raymond Threlkeld put mines into production. Ray’s a geologist as well. He’s looked and identified new targets all the way from grassroots right to advanced exploration to be able to add value. Doug Hurst, the geologist. Darren Hall, the chief operating officer with decades of experience not only with operations, but the human capital aspect is an important part of it. It’s such an important part, especially when you’re overseeing thousands of employees. Darren brings a tremendous amount of expertise and experience on that.
We’ve got a very well-rounded team with accountants, geologists, engineers. I believe that it’s the right mix for us when we go and we do make an acquisition, to be able to identify the good targets, the good projects to potentially bring into the company from multilevel aspects, all the way from additional exploration potential, engineering and mine optimization through to the various levels of regulatory and accounting details. It’s a good mix of a team.
Maurice Jackson: All right, sir. We’ve covered your deposits and we’ve covered your people. Tell us about your capital structure.

Ryan King: As of December 2018, 42 million shares issued and outstanding. We’ve recently completed a $5 million capital raise, a small private placement that we did at 44 cents. We did that with Sprott Global, with Rick Rule’s group. I believe Rick has identified us as a group that has been successful in the past, nice optionality with joint venture partners in Nicaragua.
One of the things, I believe, that stood out for Rick was management’s ownership. I think this is very important anytime anyone looks at a very risky, early-stage exploration, even development-stage company, is do the management, the board, the founders, do they own stock and do they own it by buying it in the market?
So often you’ll see different groups that own stock, but they may or may not have ever bought that stock. It may have been granted or gifted. We actually have hard dollars into the company. We’ve bought 10% of our shares in the market or in private placements. We all participated in the last round of the financing at 44 cents.
We want to see Calibre Mining succeed. Even recently, you look at insider filings, you’ll see some of our directors, myself included, buying shares in the market, because oftentimes, at the end of the year, at the end of a difficult commodity cycle or a year, you’ll see tax loss selling. We’ve been seeing that recently currently trading at about 38, 39 cents a share. We all just believe it’s a great opportunity to acquire additional shares in the market, given the tax loss pressure, all resource, as companies have seen.
We’ve got about just a little under $5 million in cash with a very relatively low burn rate, given that we’re not going to be spending any money drilling on our 100%-owned projects in Nicaragua in the short term.
We just think the better value opportunity is to continue to look for additional either advanced stage gold projects or production opportunities. They’re not easy to find, they’re not easy to transact on, but because of the depth of our relationships, I believe that we’ll be able to pull it off.
Maurice Jackson: For our members of our audience, I want to underline, underscore, and foot stomp when Rick Rule and Sprott Global Resource Investments, when they commit capital, that should get your attention as well.
Ryan King: I will just quickly touch on two more shareholders that we have that I think is prominent and important. You mentioned Sprott and Sprott Global, Rick Rule. It’s very worthy of paying attention to smart, educated, well-known investors like himself.
We also have a 9% shareholder, Lukas Lundin. Lukas was a board member with us at Newmarket Gold. He was a significant shareholder of that company as well. In addition, 12% shareholders in B2Gold. B2 has projects all around the world, but, in particular, it has two producing gold mines in Nicaragua, where we’re currently exploring. Good shareholders to have. Well over 30% here, or just a little over 30%, is owned by people close to the company, management, and very solid, well-known mid-tier gold producer, almost a senior gold producer in B2Gold.
Maurice Jackson: Talk to us about the cash-flow distribution. Is it going to be used predominantly for optionality here?
Ryan King: For the time being, given the landscape we see in the resource market, particularly gold market, we believe it’s best preserved and used for, let’s call it, due diligence, looking at new opportunities. It does require capital. Even though we have a great team of technically experienced, good director and management people, you always need to hire third parties to help analyze and assist in seeing if an opportunity has any red flags, seeing if there’s areas for improvement, seeing if there’s upside potential.
At the moment, that’s probably going to be our use of cash, as well as rent and small salaries. Outside of that, if markets do tend to change, we might review drilling some more on our 100%-owned ground. As I have mentioned, we have numerous targets. We think there’s significant amount of potential to expand on not only resources, but make new discoveries.
However, in the market, we have noticed that it’s not translating that much into new shareholder value in terms of drilling and expanding resources. It can be just what’s happening in the market today, it could be a bigger picture, but we believe we’re getting close to a bottom in the gold cycle. We believe that over the last number of years, stewards of shareholder capital management and board of directors in mid-tiers and senior gold companies have started to focus really on the margins of their ounces and being able to really grow not so much grow their production, but focus on cash margins of their producing opportunities within their portfolios.
I think they’re really starting to evaluate and starting to put money to work properly. Whereas before it was not well-used capital allocations. I think that’s what got the sector a little bit offside for a lot of institutional shareholders unhappy with the use of capital. I think that’s changed. I think a lot is cleaned up. I think that we’re getting close to a new bull market, and we hope so. We’re going to be opportunistic now.
Maurice Jackson: How much debt do you have?
Ryan King: No debt.
Maurice Jackson: Did we miss any other institutional investors?
Ryan King: We do have, I’m sure, a couple of different funds in there. It’d probably equate to about 10% to 15% funds are familiar with us. I won’t name any specific names. But, yeah, there’s probably about 15%, maybe up to 20% institutionally held within the company.
Maurice Jackson: What is the float?
Ryan King: The float I would say is probably currently somewhere between 30% and 40% of the public company.
Maurice Jackson: Are there any change of control fees?
Ryan King: At this stage, I don’t believe there is. No.
Maurice Jackson: All right, sir. You survived the storm. Mr. King, multilayered question here: what is the next unanswered question for Calibre Mining? What should we expect results? What determines success?
Ryan King: I will answer that by saying, first and foremost, I think the largest significant impact Calibre will have for shareholders will be the acquisition of a producing gold opportunity that has opportunity to either expand in resources or optimize in cost in terms of potentially bringing cost down. I think that will have the most impact for shareholders of the company. I think it would transform the company. Well, clearly, it would transform the company immediately.
We do have ongoing drilling with Centerra and with Iamgold. Over the next number of months, we’ll have drill results coming out periodically. One of the things about drilling when you’re drilling new targets is you hope to have good success, you never know. I believe that if we do have good success significantly outside of our resources, maybe larger widths, higher grade, they could have a very positive impact on the company.
There’s a number of things that will outline success, and I believe it will happen between the next three and, let’s call it, nine months. We’ll have regular news flow. However, this opportunity for us to take advantage of the lower price to NAV opportunities in the sector. The, let’s call it, hopefully, low hanging fruit, maybe partner with a mid-tier company to try and unlock value.
You see back in earlier parts of the 2000s, Goldcorp had been successful at that. It had vended out projects for shares. Companies, for example, Primero, had good success and Goldcorp did well on shares there. There’s many different ways to skin a cat. There’s many different ways to find new opportunities. Our group is very connected with numerous different parties within the sector, so I think we’ll have success. I’m very confident we’ll have success.
The next unanswered question would just be what is the new opportunity? What is it going to look like? We are focused on precious metals, but what is it going to look like and how is the team going to unlock value for shareholders?
Maurice Jackson: What keeps management up at night that we don’t know about?
Ryan King: I would say, if anything, what keeps management up at night is not getting into the game. What I mean by that is not being able to execute on our plan, and that is to acquire something that is either advanced stage or in production. For whatever reason, not being able to acquire it, costs get too expensive, structure doesn’t work, relationships fall apart, capital isn’t there, for some reason.
I would say, if anything, we want to get in the game. We believe that there is a new bull market in precious metals coming. If there’s anything that keeps us up at night, it would be that, not being able to be a part of the next cycle.
Maurice Jackson: Finally, what did I forget to ask?
Ryan King: I think we covered most of the aspects that any sort of retail or institutional shareholder would want to know when looking at a company. I think it’s important to note that we’re all very engaged here. We do think that there is a great opportunity in front of us. In terms of what investors would look for, I think we covered off all the important aspects.
Maurice Jackson: Mr. King, for someone listening that wants to get more information on Calibre Mining, please share the contact details.
Ryan King: Absolutely. You can contact myself directly at 604-681-9944 or by cell phone 778-998-3700. That is the office phone number here in Vancouver, Canada. You can email me directly, rking@calibremining.com, as well as, of course, get information from the website, www.calibremining.com.
Maurice Jackson: As a reminder, Calibre Mining trades on the TSX.V symbol CXB. On the OTC, symbol CXBMF.
Last but not least, please visit our website www.provenandprobable.com where we interview the most respected names in the natural resource space. You may reach us at contact@provenandprobable.com.
Ryan King of Calibre Mining, thank you for joining us today on Proven and Probable.
Maurice Jackson is the founder of Proven and Probable, a site that aims to enrich its subscribers through education in precious metals and junior mining companies that will enrich the world.
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GROUP TEN METALS Exploring for PGE’s in Montana

Michael Rowley, president and CEO of Group Ten Metals sits down with Maurice Jackson of Proven and Probable to discuss his companies exploration for platinum, palladium, nickel, copper and cobalt in the Stillwater area of Montana. Specifically, Mr. Rowley will address the latest press release regarding hybrid zone consisting of 14 target areas, 6 of which Higher-Grade ‘Reef Zones’ and 8 of which are large scale bulk tonnage “Platreef-Style’ Mineralization.

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Exploring for PGEs in Montana 
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Source: Maurice Jackson for Streetwise Reports  (12/27/18)

Maurice JacksonMichael Rowley, president and CEO of Group Ten Metals, speaks with Maurice Jackson of Proven and Probable about his company’s recent PGE discoveries in Montana and the similarities to projects in South Africa’s Platreef District.

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Maurice Jackson: Joining us today is Michael Rowley, the president and CEO of Group Ten Metals Inc. (PGE:TSX.V; PGEZF:OTC), which is exploring for platinum, palladium, nickel, copper and cobalt in the Stillwater district of Montana.
Mr. Rowley, we have some exciting developments to discuss for current and perspective shareholders, but before we begin, for someone new to the story, who is Group Ten Metals and what is the thesis you’re attempting to prove?

Michael Rowley: Group Ten Metals is a growth stage company, focused on PGM, platinum group metals, plus nickel, copper, also cobalt, the so-called technology battery metals. We have polymetallic deposits as these things occur together; we’re focused primarily at the Stillwater West Project in Montana. We also have assets in the Yukon and a gold project in Ontario.
Maurice Jackson: Group Ten Metals just issued a press release announcing a new discovery hybrid zone and some targets at the Stillwater West. Multi-layered question, sir, can you update us on the Stillwater West, expand on the findings, and tell us what they mean moving forward?
Michael Rowley: Stillwater West is our newest project; we made our first acquisition there in 2017. It’s a remarkable land position and database in a truly world-class district. The Stillwater name, the district is synonymous with the richest palladium, platinum mines in the world, a staggering 90 million ounces in past production and current reserves producing from three mines at over half an ounce per ton, 16 grams per ton.

It’s platinum and palladium rich; palladium, of course, is very significant right now given that palladium is challenging gold as the most valuable precious metal. We are above and below Stillwater in this layered system and because of that we have not only the same potential for palladium and platinum, platinum group metals in general, but we also get to expand our target to these truly polymetallic things including nickel, copper, cobalt, palladium. We recently added to that list, also, rhodium, and we have some significant gold.
This is truly elephant country. It’s the biggest PGM deposit outside of South Africa and Russia and, of course, it was bought by Sibanye our neighbor for $2.2 billion in 2017. So we’re the only other player in the district. It’s a fantastic place to be, we’re very excited.
You brought up the most recent news release, December 17. The Hybrid Zone is one of our targets in the Chrome mountain area and an exciting new discovery. We mention up to 150 meters of mineralized intervals there in this new style of mineralization. What’s exciting is this has never been recognized in camp before and it ties into the Bushveld Complex of South Africa and, despite the known similarities between these districts, Stillwater has never been examined systematically for that potential.
So in a nutshell, we are taking the lessons learned at the Mogalakwena Mine and Ivanhoe’s Platreef project and applying them to the similar geology in Montana Stillwater in a way that nobody’s done before. I guess final point to wrap that up is the team that we’ve attracted includes a number of renowned experts on this type of deposit, but most recently David Broughton of Ivanhoe, so we’ve actually attracted expertise and talent of a world caliber on the project.
Maurice Jackson: Can you further expand on the new 14 target areas?
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Michael Rowley: We have as a result of our efforts in 2018, being our first season on the ground, we’ve identified 14 target areas in Stillwater West, six of them fit the high-grade PGE reef type targets that the district is known for, in particular our neighbor Stillwater Sibanye Mines. However, 8 of the 14 targets are these newer Platreef style targets where we see potential for large-scale bulk-mineable disseminated sulfide mineralization of the types seen on the Platreef District of South Africa, and that’s in the basal zones and the lower ultramafic series in Stillwater.
And that’s the greater potential we see there for these hundred million ounce style PGE nickel/copper deposits, also cobalt actually, at Stillwater, and news flow will be ongoing in the coming weeks and months as we reveal the results of our work in 2018, and our plans for 2019.
Maurice Jackson: And what are the target commodities at the Stillwater?
Michael Rowley: It’s a true polymetallic system; the district itself is known for having the highest-grade palladium platinum lines in the world, and that is the three operating Stillwater mines that were bought by Sibanye in 2017, in our part of the district, in the lower part you can also add to that list gold, cobalt, and chrome are significant and we are recently finding indications of potentially significant vanadium and rhodium, you can add to that list as well.
So this suite of commodities, in particular the palladium, in light of what palladium is doing in the markets these days, positions Group Ten as one of very few options in terms of PGE investment opportunity for investors, especially if one included geography in that, being that we are outside of South Africa and Russia, in North America.
Maurice Jackson: Sir, what is the next unanswered question for Group Ten Metals, when should we expect results, and what determines success?
Michael Rowley: Good questions, news flow will be ongoing in the coming weeks, assays are coming in as we speak, we’re entering them into our models and planning our strategy around that, so we’re excited by what we see. I think the most exciting aspect of news is going to be the results of re-logging and modeling the more than 12,000 meters of core that we have in our possession, as we said earlier, no one has brought this land position together with the South African Platreef models, along with this physical core, so bringing these things together, and for the first time looking at this district systematically for the potential for these styles of deposits. It’s very exciting and I think the first quarter of 2019 you’ll see some very interesting news releases and materials along that line.
We will be at the major trade shows, we’ll have core on display at the January shows in Vancouver, and we’ll be at the PDAC in Toronto in March as well, and we look forward to seeing anybody and everybody there.
Maurice Jackson: Sir, we’ve covered the good, what keeps you up at tight that we don’t know about?
Michael Rowley: Well, frankly, our share price isn’t where I’d like it to be and I don’t think it reflects the potential of the company, that is of course seasonal and the juniors (miners) do generally get hit harder this time of year, however, gold has held up very nicely, and other commodities are following it, and the majors have moved up nicely. So I think we can expect a good rebound in 2019 from the mining sector, and from the juniors, and then, of course, there was also our own work, especially Stillwater I think will get some nice life, in addition to the rising tide, that floats all boats.
Maurice Jackson: Finally, what did I forget to ask?

Michael Rowley: Well, it’s not that you forgot to ask, but let’s revisit and touch on something we’ve talked about before, the fact that 75% of the world’s PGM metals come out of South Africa—this has been written up very well recently by the CMP group out of New York—a lot of those mines are facing closures, they’ve been underfunded for years, and this is expected to drive the platinum price substantially into the year 2020.
Palladium, of course, is already up and platinum is expected to follow. It’s worth noting, perhaps, that those are reef mines, they’re deep, they’re hot, they’re expensive, they’re dangerous, the mines of a Platreef, north of the Bushveld, are our current model with Stillwater, and those are highly economic and they keep producing, and that’s what we expect to bring to Stillwater for everyone’s benefit.
Maurice Jackson: Mr. Rowley for someone listening that wants to get more information on Group Ten Metals, what is the website address?
Michael Rowley: Website is grouptenmetals.com.
Maurice Jackson: And as a reminder, Group Ten Metals trades on the TXS.V:PGE, and on the OTCQB:PGEZF; for direct inquiries please contact Chris Ackerman at 604-357-4790 extension 1, or email info@grouptenmetals.com, as reminder Group Ten Metals is a sponsor of Proven and Probable, and we are proud shareholders for the virtues conveyed into today’s interview. Last but not least, please visit our website www.provenandprobable.com where we interview the most respected names in the natural resource space. You may reach us at contact@provenandprobable.com.
Michael Rowley of Group Ten Metals, thank you for joining us today on Proven and Probable.
Maurice Jackson is the founder of Proven and Probable, a site that aims to enrich its subscribers through education in precious metals and junior mining companies that will enrich the world.

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JAMES RICKARDS : Will Gold Pop When The Fed Throws In The Towel?

James Rickards, Author of The Road to Ruin

The prospects of a Santa Claus rally faded and the doom and gloom on Wall Street hinted at a big lump of coal in investors’ stockings. The final days of 2018 could bring wild swings at a time that is usually quiet and light on volume; but the writing may already be on the wall.

During the final full trading week of the year, the Federal Reserve hiked interest rates as widely expected. The target range for the benchmark funds rate was raised by 25 basis points to 2.25 – 2.5%. The central bank forecast two more rate hikes in 2019 and pulled back from the previously projected three hikes. The Fed cut its growth forecast and lowered the long-run funds rate outlook.

Many questioned the Fed’s logic that it is data-dependent. Plenty of dialogue and criticism regarding the FOMC’s reasoning swirled like a snowstorm in the days following the Fed announcement. Based on the data, how could the central bank forecast two hikes in 2019?

At the end of the final full trading week of 2018 U.S. markets got a boost as New York Fed President John Williams said the central bank could reassess its view on the economy in 2019. But those gains were short-lived as the major equity averages reversed course and headed back into negative territory.

Jim Rickards joined me at the NASDAQ MarketSite in the aftermath of the Federal Reserve announcement and just as Fed Chairman Jerome Powell commenced the press conference. Keep a close eye on the monitors in the background. You’ll notice the quick shift in the equity averages — going from green to red in just a matter of minutes.
Rickards and I covered plenty of ground in the interview segments. It doesn’t take a stealthy sleuth to figure out the chronology of the interviews. Towards the end of the last interview you’ll notice that the Dow Jones Industrial Average, S&P 500 and the NASDAQ Composite Index are deep in negative territory and down at least 1.5%. That’s quite the decline within a few short minutes.
There has also been a lot of chatter about the impact of President Trump’s tweets on the markets and the direction of the Federal Reserve. Rickards gave us his take on the tug of war between the broader market and the political sphere in Washington D.C. He offers his take on the “pause factors” that would affect the FOMC’s policy trajectory.
Interview segment with Jim Rickards taped on December 19, 2018: CLICK HERE.
 
GOLD REGAINING ITS LUSTER
It was a volatile year across all markets and precious metals were no exception. The yellow metal is improving and is about to close out its best quarter in almost two years. Sentiment for the traditional safe haven has slowly gained traction following its bottom this summer.
At a time when returns on most asset classes are dismal and performance in futures and ETFs are less-than-stellar, many are left asking why support for gold hasn’t been as strong.
Rickards says gold is “defying headwinds right now but watch what happens when headwinds turn into tailwinds.”
Rickards reflected on the performance of spot gold prices in a tweet:

What’s interesting about gold is that it’s not spiking or surging it’s just slowly chugging higher like the little engine that could. $1,180/oz to $1,245/oz (+5.5%) in ten weeks. “I think I can, I think I can….” pic.twitter.com/uWQfCuu6YY

— Jim Rickards (@JamesGRickards) December 7, 2018

In the current political and geopolitical landscape there are more headwinds than tailwinds being monitored. Uncertainty over the outcome of the U.S.-China trade war at the end of the 90-day truce combined with the potential of a partial government shutdown do little to boost prospects for growth in the New Year.
Gold is favored by investors seeking diversification and protection from risk. As the bearish conditions for the precious metal continue to shift to more favorable ones, gold may find support not just based on Fed policy and the value of the U.S. currency.
Ahead of the Christmas holiday weekend, Jim Cramer stated that “there’s a bull market in gold … I feel powerless, just like 2007.” Many investors may feel as though there’s nowhere to hide. That sentiment may be a potential harbinger of things to come.
It’s a crowded market for post-Fed commentary and market predictions for 2019 but without a crystal ball only Santa’s elves know what’s in the making for next year’s proverbial workshop.
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DNI METALS Progress Reported with Graphite, Vanadium Projects on Two Continents

Dan Weir the Executive Chairman of DNI Metals sits down with Maurice Jackson of Proven and Probable to discuss a number of topics for current and prospective shareholders regarding environmental permit, Resource Estimate on the flagship Vohitsara, LOI on Alberta Black Shales Deposit, and a Financing Opportunity.

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Progress Reported with Graphite, Vanadium Projects on Two Continents 
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Source: Maurice Jackson for Streetwise Reports  (12/19/18)

Maurice JacksonDan Weir, executive chairman of DNI Metals, speaks with Maurice Jackson of Proven and Probable about the progress his company has made with its graphite project in Madagascar, as well as developments with its Alberta project.

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Maurice Jackson: Joining us for a conversation is Dan Weir, the executive chairman of DNI Metals Inc. (DNI:CSE; DMNKF:OTC), which is establishing itself to become one of the world’s leading graphite producers. Mr. Weir, welcome to the show, sir.
Dan Weir: Hi, Maurice, and greetings from Madagascar.
Maurice Jackson: Glad to have you back on the program. We brought you on today to provide us with an update on a number of important topics for current and prospective shareholders. But before we delve into today’s interview, for first time listeners, who is DNI Metals, and what is the thesis you’re attempting to prove?
Dan Weir: DNI Metals is a public company. It’s been around for about 35 years. DNI had a number of different projects. It first started out as a nickel company. It used to be called Dumont Nickel Incorporated, and it was shortened to DNI Metals. And it had, at one point, a gold asset in Utah. We still own a royalty on that gold asset. And then the previous management was focusing on a very large polymetallic deposit up in Alberta, which I think we’ll talk about a little bit later. When I took over in late 2014, we decided to focus the company on graphite in Madagascar. Our projects in Madagascar are the company’s main focus, and that focus is to get our projects in Madagascar into production.
Maurice Jackson: Speaking of Madagascar, in our last interview, you referenced your commitment to getting the environmental permit and a purposed timeline. What can you share with us regarding the environmental permit?
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Dan Weir: What I’ve tried to do over the last two months is put out press releases to the market and discuss how we’ve been moving forward with the environmental permits. In one of our press releases in October, we mentioned that we had terminated our previous team. We brought a whole new team in to complete the work. I’ve been spending a lot of time in Madagascar to make sure that that is all happening. And you can see from a lot of press releases we have been making great headway. Some of the documents weren’t filed properly with the government agency, the Office National pour l’Environnement Madagascar, also called the ONE. And we have those documents filed. We have to do two site visits, a technical site visit and then a public consultation visit.
On December 5 and 6 when I was here, we did the technical visits. They went very well. And in mid-January we will do the public consultations, three public consultations, one for the district and then one for Marofody and Vohitsara, respectively. Thereafter, DNI Metals will have completed everything to receive the environmental permit. We are very excited that we’ve been moving forward. So it’s been great, Maurice.
Maurice Jackson: Speaking of the Vohitsara, can you provide us with an update on the resource estimate?
Dan Weir: Yes. We have hired Micon, a company from Toronto. It is very well known around the world for its expertise in resource studies. In the first week in January, Micon will be coming to visit our flagship project, the Vohitsara in Madagascar, to conduct a site review. DNI Metals believes that we can have the main resource for the Vohitsara property completed by late January, early February. We are very excited about the timing because around the same time we should be receive the environmental permits, so very exciting times coming for DNI Metals shareholders.
Maurice Jackson: Moving onto Canada, Dan, you referenced the Alberta Black Shells Deposit, which also a part of the DNI project portfolio. It’s been overshadowed with your projects in Madagascar. Tell us a little bit more about this deposit and why is the market is specifically excited about the deposit there?
Dan Weir: We had put the project on hold. It was a really a non-core asset. Previous management spent over $6.7 million. There are six outcroppings or six mineralized zones that we know of stretching well over 30 to 50 kilometers right near the tar sands or the oil sands in northern Alberta in Canada. It’s what they call a polymetallic. So all sorts of different minerals are in the there, rare earths, uranium, cobalt, nickel, zinc. But what’s been really exciting lately is the fact that it has a lot of vanadium in it and cobalt and lithium. As the world moves forward with battery metals, those are key components, as well as the graphite being a key component of a lithium-ion battery.
So we’re very excited about all of that. We’ve had a number of people come to us who are interested in doing something with that project. Again, I want to emphasize this, that we’re focused on graphite. We will continue to focus on graphite. But we have done a great deal where a group is going to earn into our property in Alberta. It is going pay us a cash component and will spend a minimum of $1 million to earn into 50% of the project. At that point DNI will have 49% of the project, and we will have a carried interest to a full bankable feasibility study.
So, in essence, another group is going to manage the project. It will do all the work on the project. I will help, but really it won’t take up any of my time, and it allows me to focus on Madagascar and the graphite. But it allows DNI to have a 49% interest in a very big vanadium, cobalt, lithium, rare earth-type deposits. That has some potential. So we’re very excited. Again, we get a carried interest all the way to the bankable feasibility study. And at that point we can decide whether or not we want to put up the capital to build the processing plant or get diluted down to a 2% royalty. We’ll see at that point.
Maurice Jackson: Dan, before we leave the deposit there, I want to discuss vanadium a little bit more in detail here. Most investors know very little about the metal. Can you share with us where the demand will be coming from regarding vanadium?
Dan Weir: Some investors may not have heard about a vanadium redox battery. It’s very different from a lithium-ion battery. Vanadium redox tend to be used for very, very large storage of energy. So if you had a wind farm or if you had a solar farm and you wanted to store the energy, a vanadium redox battery would be a very good battery for that. It’s not a good battery to use in a car, a cell phone, or your laptop. That’s where a lithium-ion battery has its use. These are big stationary-type batteries. But what’s really driven the price in vanadium lately, and remember when we did the feasibility studies on the Alberta property, vanadium was at around $5.80. It’s now well over $22 a pound.
The primary reason for the price increase in vanadium is that China has just put in new construction laws where a higher percentage of rebar, which is used to strengthen concrete, has to have vanadium in it. That is for two reasons, strengthening the rebar, and helping in the corrosion factors of the rebar. Therefore demand is going through the roof for vanadium.
Maurice Jackson: Switching gears. Dan, DNI will be conducting a financing. Can you share the details with us?
Dan Weir: Yes. As DNI Metals completes our environmental licenses/permits, and as we move forward on the resource study, our ultimate goal is to complete those, we would do a much larger financing to build the pilot plant, buy the machinery needed. And by machinery, I mean the bulldozers and excavators and additional equipment. But in the meantime, you will see also from our press release, we’re negotiating with some of the locals to buy some of their land. It’ll actually likely be more of a 99-year lease, which we can renew for another 99 years. Again, we’re negotiating all of that. To have some money in the bank right now to be able to use what I’m negotiating will help us.
So it’s nice right now to have some money in the bank. It lets me continue my work, what I need to do here in Madagascar, and sets us up for the next financing. Hopefully in and around some time in February or March that’ll be the time when we want to do a much larger financing to build everything. So we decided to come up with a convertible debenture where investors who buy the debenture, if they hold on to the debenture for one year, there’s a one-year term on the debenture, we’ll pay them a 12% coupon. At that point you can convert the debenture into stock at 8 cents (CAD). You get a unit on the conversion, and all the details are in our press release. Or you can take the cash. Your choice at the end of one year. So this is really a short-term type loan to the company as we develop some of the things we need to do over the coming months.
Maurice Jackson: Dan, to summarize what we’ve covered today, what is the next unanswered question for DNI Metals? When should we expect results, and what determines success?
Dan Weir: As you’ve seen from a lot of our press releases recently, I have really tried to be open to the market and give exact details of what we’re doing and how we’re doing things for the environmental licenses, for the resource report, and now for potentially developing some of the Alberta projects. So there’s not a lot else out here right now that hasn’t been made public. We’re working our butts off to get things done in Madagascar. I’m staying on top of it and moving it all forward.
Maurice Jackson: What did I forget to ask?
Dan Weir: I don’t think you forgot to ask anything. Maurice. You’ve been to the property twice. You’ve seen how exciting it is. I’m really pushing to make sure that we get this into production and get there as soon as possible. That’s my mandate, and that’s what I’m doing.
Maurice Jackson: Dan, for someone who wants to get more information regarding DNI Metals, please share the contact details.
Dan Weir: The best thing to do is email me, because I will be going back and forth between Toronto and Madagascar. It’s DanWeir@DNIMetals.com and the website is www.DNIMetals.com.
Maurice Jackson: And as a reminder, DNI Metals trades on the CSE: DNI. And on the OTC: DMNKF. DNI Metals is a sponsor of Proven and Probable, and we are proud shareholders for the virtues conveyed in today’s interview. And last but not least, please visit our website www.provenandprobable.com where we interview the most respected names in the natural resource space. You may reach us at contact@provenandprobable.com.
Dan Weir of DNI Metals, thank you for joining us today on Proven and Probable.
Maurice Jackson is the founder of Proven and Probable, a site that aims to enrich its subscribers through education in precious metals and junior mining companies that will enrich the world.

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GOWEST GOLD Small-Cap Exploration in Timmins Gold Belt

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Greg Romain the President, Director, and CEO of Gowest Gold sits down with Maurice Jackson of Proven and Probable to discuss the value proposition of the becoming the next Gold Producer in Timmins on their flagship project the Bradshaw Deposit. In this interview we will address the Gowest Gold’s provide a historical reference on the Timmins Region, the value proposition of the Bradshaw Deposit, strategic goals, management team, capital structure, and PFS. For current and prospective shareholders there are details enclosed as well for financing opportunity for accredited investors.

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Small-Cap Exploration in Timmins Gold Belt 
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Source: Maurice Jackson for Streetwise Reports  (12/18/18)

Maurice Jackson

Greg Romain, CEO of Gowest Gold, sits down with Maurice Jackson of Proven and Probable to discuss his company’s aim of being the next gold producer in Canada’s Timmins gold camp.

Maurice Jackson: Joining us today is Greg Romain, the president, CEO and director of Gowest Gold Ltd. (GWA:TSX.V), which is focused on becoming the newest gold producer in Timmins.

For someone new to the story, who is Gowest Gold, and what is the thesis you’re attempting to prove?

Greg Romain: Gowest Gold is a junior exploration company listed on the Toronto Venture Exchange. We are focused on our North Timmins Gold Project, and in that part of that North Timmins Gold Project, we own 100% of the Bradshaw Gold Deposit, which we are currently in a bulk sample and moving towards full production. The Bradshaw is turning out, and we hope, to be the next, newest gold mine in the Timmins Camp not next to an existing headframe built in the last 25 years.

Maurice Jackson: Mr. Romain, please provide us with some historical mining context on the Timmins region, so we may have a better understanding on why Gowest Gold has focused their efforts specifically in Timmins.

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Greg Romain: I was born and raised in Timmins, and so I view Timmins as a great mining jurisdiction. In the last 100 years, there has been over 70 million ounces of gold that’s been produced in the camp, and there are a number of deposits that are currently being mined. For example, you’ve got Goldcorp that is mining up in Timmins, as well as Tahoe, its Lake Shore deposit, and a few other smaller ones that are being mined by other various companies.

We and, more specifically, my father-in-law, initially made the discovery. He was on discovery teams of other gold mines in the past and identified this deposit, which we are now hoping to bring into production.

Maurice Jackson: Gregory, now that we have covered the historical mining context on the Timmins region, please introduce us to your flagship project, Gowest North Timmins Gold Project and the value proposition it presents to prospective shareholders.

Greg Romain: The Bradshaw Deposit is located north of the city of Timmins and east of the Kidd Creek Mine. The Kidd Creek Mine is the deepest base metal mine in the world, which is owned by Glencore. Most of the mining companies in the Timmins Camp are situated along what is known as the Porcupine-Destor Fault. We are located north on the Pipestone Fault. The Pipestone Fault is the same time period and event as the Porcupine-Destor. When Kidd was discovered back in the 1960s, they flew Airmag surveys and did some ground drilling looking for more base metals. They came across gold but couldn’t follow it. It was in the early 2000s that the founder of Gowest got his hands on a governmental and geophysics survey, pieced things together, and came up with the initial half-a-million-ounce resource in 2006.

It’s very prospective area that holds a lot of opportunity. Gowest picked up a large land package along the Pipestone Fault. We now own approximately 25 kilometers along the Pipestone Fault, and it still has been underexplored. When I took over the company, the focus was to develop the Bradshaw into an operating mine, generate cash flow, and use that to continue the exploration. We have a number of other zones near Bradshaw that we have done a little bit of drilling and have identified gold and eventually want to turn those into resources as well. So, there’s a great opportunity there.

Bradshaw itself, the mine site is close to the city of Timmins, therefore we already have good infrastructure, great knowledge of the people, great working relationship with the First Nations because they’ve been working with mining companies for a long time. So, all in all, the Timmins area is one of the best areas in my view and in terms of mining and opportunities that present themselves.

Maurice Jackson: Gregory, I believe you’re being a little conservative here with us. Gowest Gold has a multi-million-ounce potential here. Talk to us a little bit more about the resource.

Greg Romain: The resource total is about 1.2 million ounces, and if you break that down, you’re looking at about 450,000 to 500,000 ounces of Indicated ounces of about 6 grams resource. In that, you’ve got a reserve of about 277,000 ounces at about 5 grams grade of fully diluted, and that resource is an 800-meter strike length down to about 500 meters. And then, from 500 meters down to 800 meters, you’ve got about 800,000 ounces of Inferred ounces at about 6 grams as well. It’s open along strike, and it’s open along depth. It’s turning out to be one of the longest strikes ever found in the Timmins Camp.

Maurice Jackson: Gowest Gold has outlined a three-phase approach to growth on how it plans to optimize the North Timmins Gold Project. Please share the strategy with us.

Greg Romain: Phase One we are going to focus on the Bradshaw. We are using existing capacity in the Timmins Camp to process. If I step back a moment, the ore at Bradshaw is our single-pyrite refractory gold. It’s a similar type of gold structure that is found, for example, at Barrick and Newmont in Nevada. Placer Dome, Red Lake operation, part of their deposit is refractory in nature as well.

Once we mill, we’ll produce a concentrate, and we’ll ship that concentrate to a third party for processing. To accomplish this our goal is to get Bradshaw into production, use existing infrastructure, and get the project up and running. At the same time, continue to expand the Bradshaw to get into multi-million-ounce resource and then look at building our own infrastructure or acquiring infrastructure within the camp. This way, we’ll realize additional sav
ings and more to the bottom line.

The second phase is to continue the growth of the Bradshaw Deposit but also other existing zones in our portfolio that are within a kilometer of Bradshaw, which are the Sheridan, Roussain and Dowe zones. The Sheridan zone is to the west. Roussain zone’s to the north, and the Dowe zone is just to the south of Bradshaw. All of these zones have had some preliminary drilling done on them, but they’ve never been turned into a resource. As you can appreciate, cash is hard to raise, and we treat dollars like manhole covers. And again, we try to focus and do one thing right and then move from that center point.

The second phase would be to take Bradshaw, which our PFS indicates an average when we are in full production of approximately 50,000 ounces a year, but we are already have plans to increase that to 100,000 ounces per year. In the PFS, we had a single ramp, going into the sinter of the deposit. We have plans to ramp off the main ramp and then get a number of more faces moving so that way we can get our production up to 100,000 ounces per year.

And at the same time, we have a third phase is outside of the Bradshaw in the zones that are within the kilometer. As I mentioned earlier, we have got a 110-square-kilometer land package. We have a large land package on this underexplored area of the camp that we have done quite a bit of geophysics work, soil sampling, and there are a lot of correlations between what we see outside of I call it the Bradshaw Project area with Bradshaw.

We are pretty excited about what we have and pretty keen on developing it. But again, our view is to grow it internally and move outwards as opposed to try to be the biggest and the best for everybody. We are going to do it one step at a time.

Maurice Jackson: Mr. Romain, walk us through the Bradshaw site.

Greg Romain: At the Bradshaw site we have offices, dry and change rooms. Gowest Gold has about 30,000 tons of mixed development ore sitting on site. We have completed over 2,000 meters of underground development, and our water treatment plant is up and running. Although we are just moving through the bulk sample phase, and we have permits, we are well along the way of applying for our permits to continue mining. We have designed the mine footprint to really be set up for full mining production, so it isn’t like we built a small little footprint just for a 30,000-ton bulk sample, and then we have to start all over again. We have been doing things in parallel, which is how I’ve always run businesses.

Maurice Jackson: Let’s discuss the bulk sample program and moving towards production. Gowest has accomplished some milestones this year on the Bradshaw Project. What can you share with us regarding the underground development?

Greg Romain: Gowest Gold has completed over 2,000 meters of underground development this year. This includes commissioning of the main ramp and a portal. The portal and the ramp are sufficient to bring us into future, full production mining. We have developed the three levels so far at 30, 45 and 60-meter levels, and we have initiated silling, and really, we are right at the stopes now. So, we have got about 30,000 tons of mixed-development ore on surface, and then we are ready to start mining.

The development follows the gold structures, and all the work that we have done to date shows great continuity and great opportunities. It’s one thing to be an explorer on surface drilling holes, but once you’re underground, you really get to see it. We have been able to confirm and enhance our geological model and what we see. We believe there’s a lot more structures that we’ll be able to prove out, and so far on the project, the most important thing, there’s been no injuries at the project to date. Everything has gone really well on the underground construction.

Maurice Jackson: What steps have you taken this year on preparing for production?

Greg Romain: In preparing for production, our water treatment plant is fully operational, and the discharge is environmentally compliant. That’s a big step. Also, we have introduced ore sorting and X-ray ore sorting and laser sorting, and this will enhance our reserve grade. We are going to reject plus 50% of the waste rock, effectively doubling the grade of the ore from 5 grams up to 10 grams that will be delivered to the mill.

As one can appreciate, while we are still chasing the vein and minimizing dilution at the mining phase, it allows us to reject the waste before it hits the mill. So, there’s a big cost savings because we are going to be shipping this ore to a third party for processing, so we are going to be able to ship less. Also, our cost will be less in the mill because we are not going to be processing the waste material. So, that is very important. We continue to do metallurgical test work. And so far, our tests have showed that we get 97% recoveries, and we continue to optimize the processing cost on the flotation circuit.

One of the biggest things in underground mine operation is ground stability, and we have been able to demonstrate stable and competent ground conditions in both the ore and waste areas. That’s very, very important. We are going to be able to revise our geological model sharply to expand the mineralized area of potential. We see lots of opportunities to expand the mineralization envelopes as we move forward.

In terms of the concentrate, we are going to produce a high-grade concentrate ranging in-between 2 and 3 ounces per ton. That concentrate will be shipped to a third party. Currently, we have an agreement with a company called Humon, which has a large smelting operation in China. Gowest Gold went out on pricing to a number of different groups both in the Americas, outside of the Americas, and that was the group that gave us the best deal at this point. Recently, we signed a 12 million agreement with QMX to use its Aurbel Mill to process the ore into a high-grade gold concentrate.

Maurice Jackson: Regarding the processing and milling agreement, have you come across any challenges that were unforeseen?

Greg Romain: The processing of the concentrate was fairly straightforward. There were no issues. Regarding the mill, we ran into a challenge and this is where current and prospective shareholders may be looking at the Gowest share price wondering “Well, what happened?” Gowest signed a definitive agreement at the end of 2017 with a company called Northern Sun to acquire 50% of the Redstone Mill in Timmins. The Redstone Mill was the perfect mill for Gowest, providing float cells and it could produce a concentrate.

We signed the definitive agreement working towards getting Ontario government consent for the Redstone to process third-party ore. In April of this year, we were notified by Northern Sun that its parent company out of China had a re-org and decided that it wanted to terminate the ownership agreement, the Gowest acquiring 50%. And furthermore, it decided it didn’t even want to process our ore, period, even though Northern Sun had received written permission, which we had seen a copy from the Ministry of the Environment to Process.

This left Gowest Gold in a hole as you can imagine. Here we are sitting with some mixed-development material on the surface. We are at the stopes, and part of our funding was precluded on us having a milling agreement. When that stopped, then the funding stopped, which, let’s just call it, “We hit a speed bump.”

This led us to spend months of negotiating to find a new mill,
which we successfully ended up doing. Now, we are in the throes of a financing, but that was the major issue that we faced in the milling side of things. Our view was try to minimize capital spent to get the project up and running. But as you can imagine, you’re saving on capital, but sometimes some things are outside of your control. And unfortunately, we ended up running into a bit of a jam. When we signed the 50% definitive agreement, in the agreement, it said that we couldn’t solicit anybody else. So, for a period of a number of months, I was working with the group that we signed the 50% definitive agreement, and as such was precluded from talking to anybody. But once it ended, then we moved on to other opportunities. So, that really impacted us from a timeline and funding perspective.

Maurice Jackson: Walk us through the processing of the Bradshaw Gold Deposit.

Greg Romain: We are going to mine the ore from underground, bring it up. We are going to crush it at site. We are going to crush it down to about an inch, 3/4 of an inch, and then from there, we are going to run the material through the laser X-ray sorter. The sorter will reject up to 50% of the waste rock. From there, the sorted gold ore will be trucked to the Aurbel Mill, and then from the Aurbel Mill, we’ll produce a high-grade concentrate of 2 to 3 ounces per ton. And then, from there, it will be shipped from the Port of Montreal to China. The agreement we have set up with the folks at the Humon Smelter is we get paid 90% of the value of the shipment once it’s on the boat in the Port of Montreal, and then the balance will be remedied once it hits China.

Maurice Jackson: What kind of time allowance has the company established on the evolution of the Bradshaw Project?

Greg Romain: I joined the company in mid-2008, but I wasn’t doing what I would say is true work until 2009, and the reasoning was that the Bradshaw Deposit was owned 50% by two private companies. So, I spent the better part of 2008 and the beginning of 2009 pulling the private owners’ half into Gowest, as well as the surrounding land. At the end of 2009, we raised approximately $6 million, so the true work started in 2010. Currently, Gowest Gold expects to have the bulk sample completed towards the end of mid-2019, subject to financing, and then be into commercial production the beginning of 2020.

As well as some of the catalysts not only growing the Bradshaw, but we also want to start spending some money, some time, and effort on the Sheridan and the Roussain zones to get that into resource status as well and add to our ounces.

Maurice Jackson: We have covered phase one. Let’s move on to phase two, which is doubling your production rate to 100,000 per year. Gowest Gold has three additional gold zones. Please provide us with some background on each of these zones.

Greg Romain: The first zone is the Sheridan zone, which is located approximately one kilometer east of the Bradshaw. We drilled several holes back in 2013. The Sheridan zone was owned by a private company called New Texmont. The owner at the time, who has since passed, indicated that they had pulled out a couple thousand ounces of gold there. I can’t prove or disprove that. But what we did do is we drilled a few holes in 2013, and we got some pretty good grades, grades that we have reported anywhere between 5 to 6 grams over 4 with anywhere between 1 and 4.5 meters. So, there were some good grades, and it was all shallow drilling, less than a couple hundred meters.

Therefore, this is one area we want to go back to because that’s about less than a kilometer from Bradshaw. The current resource is about 800-, 900-meter strike length. But we have drilled 1.3 kilometers on that strike length, and we have done some big stepouts that are not included in the current resource. And, as well, at depth at Bradshaw, we have drilled 1,200 meters and still found mineralization.

North of the Bradshaw, we have the Roussain zone. It’s an old American Barrick property that we picked up from Goldcorp several years ago. We drilled a few holes up there as well and hit 4-5 grams. One hole was 4 grams over 13 meters, so again, only a couple holes, again shallow drilling, but we see that there’s opportunities up there as well to hit that area. And then, south of us, we have got the Dowe zone, and there’s some historical drilling, again, in around the 3–4 gram range, again, very shallow drilling, less than 200 meters.

We drilled some of our largest grades underground this year at the Bradshaw, and we think that that’s going to provide us with a great opportunity to enhance the value. We intersected, and this is all public, gold values of the project 150 grams of gold in a new zone outside the current resource. We have also identified a number of new gold zones in the bulk sample area that we found once we were underground. And also, we have gone through some of the historical core, and because we are using the X-ray sorter, we also own a hand-held X-ray gun. The hand-held X-ray gun picks out the arsenic, and the gold is pretty predominantly associated with the arsenic. When you get high level of arsenic, plus 10,000 parts per million, you’re looking in the 3–5 grams per ton.

Gowest Golld spent a little bit of time over the summer going through some of the old core, and we found core outside of our resource that contained gold that really had never been analyzed. Again, our gold is fully disseminated. It’s not easy to see by the naked eye, and again, things we have learned now being underground has changed the way we view it, which is not really uncommon once you go underground, and has afforded us an opportunity that we think will be able to add ounces to Bradshaw itself and help us grow towards the 100,000-ounce mark.

Maurice Jackson: Moving on to Phase 3. Talk to us about Blue Sky exploration and potential.

Greg Romain: Gowest Gold has approximately 110 square kilometers of land located on the Pipestone Fault. We have about 25 kilometers of property on the Pipestone Fault itself, which we are seeing in addition to people that are outside Gowest Gold that have come by to look at, and it think that we are just sitting on the tip of the iceberg, and that it really lends itself to a much greater potential.

In addition, Gowest Gold has completed quite a bit of geophysics, IP surveys, soil testing. And we have used the Bradshaw kind of as the marker, and we have done a lot of test work on Bradshaw. And now, we are testing all the other sites, and we are finding a lot of things light up and are similar to what we found on Bradshaw as the marker so to speak. So, we are pretty excited about the opportunities. Again, more work has to be done, but I think there’s a lot of interesting targets and opportunities that present itself to grow outside of that call it the Bradshaw area that I talked about, the Roussain zone and the Sheridan zone. I think as you move away, there’s going to be a lot more opportunities.

Just south of Bradshaw, the previous San Gold had a company called SGX, which was its exploration company up in Timmins. And there’s a resource just south of Bradshaw that is very near to us. That deposit’s 50 meters of overburden, and they’ve recognized in the past that the only way they’ll get to it is through Bradshaw. Bradshaw just happens that there’s a large outcrop, and it’s the only out
crop of that size in the area. It’s really flat, bog-type situation. And on the Pipestone Fault, if you follow it further east, you’ve got a number of other deposits down at that end of it, which Kirkland Lake has the Taylor Mine and there’s the old Black Fox mine.

So, there’s lots of opportunities on the Pipestone Fault. It’s just that where we are there’s lots of overburden, and it was people’s last thoughts. But obviously, it’s not our last thought. It’s such a profit center for us.

Maurice Jackson: Talk to us about CSR. What type of relationship does Gowest Gold have with the community?

Greg Romain: As I mentioned at the top, I was born and raised in Timmins. I still have family in Timmins, lots of family in Timmins, and I have a very good relationship with the city of Timmins. I have a very good relationship with the First Nation groups. I’ve worked with them for the last eight, nine years, very closely. They’ve been very forthcoming and very proactive and very supportive of what we are doing. Everywhere from the city of Timmins through the Mining School, we have hired students in the summertime, and even there’s a new mayor who’s just taken over. There was an election recently, but even the past mayor was a mining-friendly mayor, and I always had great support from the city and all the community.

Maurice Jackson: Greg, as things come to fruition here, talk to us about the community and how many people will be gainfully employed here.

Greg Romain: Well, we expect once the mine gets up and running to what’s called the 50,000 ounce per year, phase one approach, we look to employ probably 70 to 80 people, possibly a few more. That’s just up in the Timmins area. There’d be a few more probably at corporate, but if we can get a mill built in Timmins, then you’re looking at another 20 to 30 people as well. So, all told, you’re probably looking at 100 people getting being employed up in the area, which is significant for the town. I can tell you when I’m back in Timmins, and people bump into me, they’re rooting for us because they all know about the big players and the big guys. But as I said to you, it’s been 25 years since anything’s been built from a greenfield. We have lots of supporters, and people want to see this happen. So, it keeps me excited to know that the community’s behind it.

Maurice Jackson: Before we discussed the management team, are there any reversionary interests or royalties on the North Timmins Gold Project?

Greg Romain: There are a few small royalties on the North Timmins Gold Project, but on Bradshaw itself, on the 100%-owned Bradshaw, there’s only a 1% royalty currently with Sandstorm.

Maurice Jackson: Are there any redundant assets such as patent mining claims?

Greg Romain: No, there are not.

Maurice Jackson: Sir, we have covered a lot of ground. Let’s conduct a brief recap.

Greg Romain: Gowest has enough ground to host multiple mines. We are targeting a near-mine exploration, and we are in striking distance of building the next new gold mine in Timmins. The Bradshaw Deposit has all the earmarks of the historical mines in Timmins. We have a large, large land position, and it’s situated in a world-class mining camp with great infrastructure.

Maurice Jackson: Switching gears, I learned from some of the most surely successful in the industry, from Rick Rule, Doug Casey, Jayant Bhandari, Mickey Fulp, and Bob Moriarty, that the people running the business are equally if not more important than the latent material in the ground. Mr. Romain, please introduce us to your Board of Directors and management team and the unique skillsets they bring to Gowest Gold.

Greg Romain: When I took over Gowest, the Board at the time had been there a long time, and they stated, “Greg, do what you want with the Board. Change it the way you see fit.” What I’ve always tried to do when I’ve run a company is get people on the Board that I’m not looking for people just to agree with me all the time. I’m looking for people to challenge me, and I look for people with different skillsets. And fortunately, I’ve been able to do that here.

A few names, Fraser Elliott, the chairman, he’s been involved in a lot of different financings and understands the business quite well. John Frostiak retired from Barrick, but he was involved in building the autoclaves for Placer Dome up at Red Lake, a very well-known, a very technically sound individual. Larry Phillips was a co-founder of IAMGOLD, which most people up there will know IAMGOLD.

We also have Yungang Wu. He’s one of the representatives because one of our shareholders is out of China, and they own 23% of Gowest. Yungang was the fellow that introduced me to the folks in China, but he’s also a geologist. He QP’d several resources up in the Timmins Camp, including Temex, which currently is owned by Lake Shore or owned by Tahoe-Lake Shore operations.

As well as I’ve got some really great mining people and technical people, and Greg Hart was underground mine manager for the operations for Goldcorp up in the Porcupine Camp in Timmins. Garth’s worked on a number of projects. He’s a metallurgical engineer, very sound, as well as Jeremy, who was involved with a number of discoveries and who heads up our director of explorations.

So, we have got a really sound team that are a great skillset that have been passionate, and they’ve invested and have been pushing this project forward with me.

Maurice Jackson: Tell us about Greg Romain. What makes him qualified for the task at hand?

Greg Romain: I don’t like talking about myself because in my view, it’s not about me. It’s about the people around me. It’s the people that make it happen. I equate myself as general manager or a coach. When you bring the best people, you give them the tools, and let them go. I’m a person who perseveres, and I never give up.

A lot of people in my position would be easily give up trying to build a new mine from a greenfield, and as you know, there’s very few that do it. I think that’s what qualifies me. Janet and I, who was the CFO, ran Norcast, which was a manufacturer of consumable products for the mining industry, and we were very successful at that and taking it public as an income trust. It’s selling it again, so we have been through it. We understand things, and again, it’s keeping people motivated and surround yourself with the best people. Fortunately, through my career, I’ve gotten to know a lot of great people, and they’ve all come back to try and help push this project forward.

Maurice Jackson: Tell us about your capital structure.

Greg Romain: Currently, we have about 370 million shares outstanding. We have 27 million warrants outstanding with the average price at about a quarter. We have about 12 million options at about 11 cents on average. Fully diluted, we are about 410 million in shares. Our largest shareholder’s out of China, a private company called Fortune Future. It owns approximately 23%, along with management that owns about 11% and other insiders, including insiders, we are probably about 41% of the company.

Our trading range when we are up about 52-week high of
20 cents, and we are floating around in the four or three and a half cent mark right now. So, our market cap is hovering around a $15 million-dollar mark. Again, a big part of that is when we announced that the definitive agreement was going to move aside, and then we had to go and start over again on the processing side. So, that really impacted us, with the exception of cash, which we are working on now, I think we have a great opportunity here at Gowest.

Maurice Jackson: Let’s discuss some numbers. How much cash or cash equivalents do you have?

Greg Romain: Right now, we don’t have a lot of cash in the bank, and we are out doing a raise. We announced up to $5 million, plus our largest shareholders are visiting next week as well. Plus, we are looking at other strategic options to move the project forward from a funding perspective.

Maurice Jackson: Talk to us about past cash flow distribution.

Greg Romain: We have got about $8.6 million of debt, and in that, it includes $3 million of convertible at our discretion. The money that we got that we have been using has been all going into the ground, has all been going into the development of Bradshaw. We have spent approximately $12 million on Bradshaw. We need another approximately CA$15 million to get us into full production is what our financial models look at today. Everything goes into the Bradshaw, and that’s been our focus. It hasn’t moved from that.

Maurice Jackson: What is your current burn rate?

Greg Romain: So, to answer that question, if we were operating without the glitch that we ran into, our burn rate from a corporate G&A perspective is about $120,000 a month on average. That’s from a corporate side. Right now, we are on call it care and maintenance. Our burn rate’s about $200,000 to $250,000 a month. As I mentioned, we are underground, so we are trying to sustain and keep things dewatered while we work our way through the financing piece now that we have got the mill to mill the ore.

Maurice Jackson: Are there any Change of Control Fees?

Greg Romain: The only Change of Control Fees are in the lending agreement with our lenders that we owe US$5.6 million to, and then also, the CEO and CFO have employment contracts.

Maurice Jackson: Gowest Gold conducted a prefeasibility study. When was this completed, and what gold price was used to determine the economics?

Greg Romain: The PFS was completed in June 2015, and it was done at the gold price of US$1,200 and at an exchange rate of about a $1.30, I believe, $1.25, or 80 cents exchange rate to be exact. On that PFS, the NPV was about US$40 million. The initial capital was about $21 million. Sustaining capital was about $21 million. This is all U.S. dollars. The average gold production in the PFS was 40,500, but I just want to caution everybody. That includes the bulk sample in pre-production once we get into the production years, once we stabilize things here at 50,000 ounces per year.

The life of mine operating costs were about US$821 per ounce, and the all-in sustaining cost was about $891 per ounce. So, the IRR was 27%. The life of mine was eight and a half years. This was 2015. We have been underground. We have done a lot of work since. But the folks that provided us with some of the funding out in New York, obviously, we have done a lot more work that we just haven’t gone out and re-published a 43-101. But I can tell you that things are still looking positive from that aspect.

Maurice Jackson: All right, sir. You survived the storm. Mr. Romain, multi-layered question. What is the next unanswered question for Gowest Gold? When should we expect results? And what determines success?

Greg Romain: Results, pending financing, which we have hope to close on some financing within by the end of the year, and then close the balance of it early next year. We expect to start the bulk sample towards the beginning of the second quarter. We should expect to have the bulk sample done about six months after that. At the same time, we are hoping, again subject to financing, to do a little more in-field drilling and then short some of the zones. And then, by the end of the year, come out with a new, updated resource along with plans to get us into production. Final plans, I’m referring, that we expect to have permits by then, so I think that’ll be the success. That’ll be the success if by this time next year, you and I are speaking again, and we can say, “We completed the bulk sample. Here’s all the great news, and we are now headed into full production.” That to me will be success.

Maurice Jackson: What keeps management up at night that we don’t know about?

Greg Romain: One of the biggest things that frustrates me as a CEO of a publicly traded company is that you can’t always put out news releases because sometimes you’re working on things. Until it’s completed, there’s not much you can say. For myself, and the chairman and the CFO and a lot of the technical people, we are all shareholders in the company. We have bought all along. Last year, I purchased stock in the $0.20s, and most recently, I bought stock at 8 cents. So, it’s painful, but at the same time, we are going to put out news when it’s justified, and it makes sense.

We are in a space that’s a very difficult space, and people under a lot of pressure. I understand that shareholders want to hear what’s going on. They want news. I think in our case, I may be a conservative kind of guy, right, but I’m not just going to pump something for the sake of pumping because I just think that is wrong. But I will tell the truth, and I will give you the news when I know what the news is. Management would love to be out buying stock right now in the market, but at the same time, there’s a lot of things we are working on that we have got to be careful that we are not off-side as well, right?

So, it’s a fine balance, and it’s one that keeps me up. The communication and how we can do a better job, and hopefully, as we move forward, we’ll continue to put out the releases in a timely manner that meet expectations of all shareholders. But at the same time, it’s information that’s going to be meaningful to the reader. I can’t just put out information for the sake of putting out information.

Maurice Jackson: If you would, sir, you referenced a financing opportunity. Share the specifics with us.

Greg Romain: Yes. We announced about a week or so ago that we are raising up to $5 million by way of a non-brokered, private placement, and it’s cheap. It’s at $0.05, and I think it’s a great deal for people. At a nickel with a two-year warrant at 7 cents, and these are all Canadian dollars.

Maurice Jackson: What question did I forget to ask?

Greg Romain: You’ve covered just about all the bases, and hopefully, I’ve been able to explain things clearly enough to the readers out there and, hopefully, get to come back sometime soon to give you an update. Hopefully, in a few months when we get some feed into the mill.

Maurice Jackson: Greg, for someone listening that wants to get more information on Gowest Gold, please share the website address.

Greg Romain: The website address is www.gowestgold.com.

Maurice Jackson: And as a reminder, Gowest Gold trades on the TSX.V: GWA, and on the OTC: GWSAF. For direct inquiries, please contact Greg Romain at (416) 363-1210. He may also be reached at info@gowestgold.com.

Last but not least, please visit our website www.provenandprobable.com where we interview the most respected names in the natural resource space. You may reach us at contact@provenandprobable.com.

Greg Romain of Gowest Gold, thank you for joining us today on Proven and Probable.

Maurice Jackson is the founder of Proven and Probable, a site that aims to enrich its subscribers through education in precious metals and junior mining companies that will enrich the world.

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BOB MORIARTY’s Outlook On 2019

In a wide-ranging conversation, Bob Moriarty of 321 Gold discusses with Maurice Jackson of Proven and Probable geopolitics, economics, Bitcoin, precious metals and more.

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Source: Maurice Jackson for Streetwise Reports  (12/11/18)

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In a wide-ranging conversation, Bob Moriarty of 321 Gold discusses with Maurice Jackson of Proven and Probable geopolitics, economics, Bitcoin, precious metals and more.

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Maurice Jackson: Joining us for conversation is Bob Moriarty, the founder of 321 Gold and 321 Energy.com, and also the author of two of my personal favorite books, “The Art of Peace,” and “Nobody Knows Anything.” Mr. Moriarty, welcome to the show, sir.
Bob Moriarty: It’s very good to talk to you today, and it’s very funny because those are two of my favorite books, too.
Maurice: Sir, it’s always an honor to have you on our show. I would like to begin our discussion on your outlook for 2019. What are some topics of interest that we should focus on beginning with the political and economic landscape of the United States?
Bob: You’ve got to separate those, and we can do that, from an economic point of view. The trade war is a total disaster. It can only do damage. It already has done substantial damage. I think the everything bubble has popped, and we could see some real fireworks in 2019! The stock market has either topped or will top soon. Gold and silver appear to be bottoming. Platinum is the lowest relative to gold it has ever been. So, I’m literally buying platinum and I’m buying silver right now. I think that we may have a few more weeks of tax loss silly selling in the gold shares. But, I think that resources look good for next year, and everything else looks bad.
Politically, there’s just no predicting what Trump will do. Every day I get up, I look, I shudder. I’m not sure Trump knows what he’s doing. But, you and I were talking off mic, and one of the things that I said was, everybody needs to own some gold, they need to have some liquid cash, and they need to have a passport. The world is very precarious. Certainly you can see from the riots in France how swiftly things can go bad, and that all has to do with government spending money it doesn’t have and increasing taxes to pay for it.
Now, the problem is, governments across the globe have spent so much money that they can never tax the people enough, and the people are getting very tired of the cost of living go up and taxes going up, and they know the government is at fault, and they’re going to start hanging politicians here, very soon, and 2019 could be a lot worse than 2008 ever dreamed of.
Maurice: Speaking of that, let’s shift the focus here a little bit and talk about it on a global context here. Regarding geopolitics and the world economy, you somewhat reference it here, but what has you concerned the most?
Bob: Trump.
Maurice: Which will suffice in and of itself.
Bob: Trump is not dealing with a full deck, now to the extent that I’m glad he was elected president, because Hillary Clinton was far worse. But, Donald Trump is not dealing with a full deck. We have a coup d’état in progress. It’s been going on for several years where the FBI, and the DOJ, and the CIA, and the NSA are all trying to over throw Trump, and that’s a very bad thing. That’s not a good thing. It’s a bad thing. Have you ever been in a riot?
Maurice: No, sir, I have not.
Bob: Well, for 20 years, I flew small airplanes all over the world, and there were a couple of times that I got caught up in riots because things just started getting crazy. I was in Pakistan, and the locals decided they would start breaking up all the places that sold liquor, and when a mob forms, you see people at that very worst. When the banks close, when people can no longer cash checks, when their plastic money doesn’t work, Americans are three meals away from chaos, and it’s going to be bad, and I’m serious as a heart attack. Everybody should have a plan for getting out of dodge.
Maurice: And again, that plan is for our audience, a passport, physical precious metals, and some cash. And with regards to cash, would it be in a particular currency?
Bob: Whatever the local currency is. If you’re Canadian, you need Canadian dollars, and if you’re American, you need American dollars. Here’s the flaw. If the banks close, and the U.S. dollar goes to zero, you still need dollars because that’s what people are used to doing trade in. I’m not saying you need dollars because dollars are going to be more valuable. You need dollars because that’s how you conduct trade. I’m quite serious everybody needs a plan B. When everything goes to shit, I’m going to get out of dodge.
Maurice: Moving on to resource companies. Who has your attention now and going forward into 2019?
Bob: Miramont Resources Corp. (MONT:CSE; MRRMF:OTC) is absolutely one. They’ve just received a drill permit. It’s a Quinton Hennigh company. They have two world-class projects in Peru. They will start drilling in January. I expect to start seeing results in February or March. I think they will be world-class results. I think the market will recognize it. The company has gone from 13 cents, 10 days ago, to 26 cents (CAD) now, and that gives a market cap of about CA$13 million. Could they be CA$150 million in six months or a year? Absolutely. They’ve got plenty of money. They’ve got CA$6 million in the bank, so there’s no risk whatsoever with them going out, doing a big financing; and I expect to see solid, good results in the next two to three months.
The second company would be Irving Resources Inc. (IRV:CSE; IRVRF:OTCBB). Same story there. You and I were at Irving. We looked at CA$25,000/ton rock. We looked at the sinter. They will start drilling the sinter in January, and you can expect to see results six weeks, two months later. And, when you drill through $25,000 rock, you get a meter or two, and you’re going to have a stock that’s explosive. Irving was $1.10 a share two weeks ago, and it’s $1.80 right now, and it’s still cheap.
Maurice: How about Novo Resources Corp. (NVO:TSX.V; NSRPF:OTCQX). That’s one of our favorites as well.
Bob: Who?
Maurice: Novo Resources.
Bob: I’ve never heard of them. I’m going to be a little bit cagey here. I mean, that’s a terrible thing for me to say. Novo is, literally, having their AGM as you’re doing this recording, and I don’t want to say anything about Novo, until I hear the results of the AGM. But, I was there a month ago, Nova has an extraordinary future ahead of them, good management, tons of money in the bank. Quinton Hennigh is an absolute genius. Everybody hates the stock now, and how many times do I need to say, “You need to buy things when everybody hates them, and you need to sell them when everybody loves them.” And, you got all these people at the chat boards whining and crying, “Oh my God, Novo’s at a new low,” and I’m thinking, “Why did they not see that as an opportunity?”
Platinum hit $790 an ounce today. Why would you whine about that? That’s an opportunity. My God, it hasn’t been $790 an ounce in many, many years. It is so cheap. Buy stuff when it’s cheap, sell it when it’s expensive. It is not complicated.
Maurice: You’ll learn that in a book written by Bob Moriarty entitled “Nobody Knows Anything.” Bob, we’ll get to that in just a second. Before we leave here, full disclosure, Miramont Resources, Irving Resources, and Novo Resources, all three are sponsors of both 321 Gold and Proven and Probable, and by the way, unbeknownst to you, Bob, I will be interviewing Bill Pincus, CEO for Miramont Resources, this coming Friday.
Bob: Good. That’s going to be a must listen to. I talked to him a few days ago. I was nibbling at the shares at 13 and 14 cents, and, obviously, word was getting out because the stock, literally, has doubled in 10 days. They have a brilliant future ahead of them. Peru can be a difficult country to deal with. Bill Pincus has it totally under control. They should have been drilling six months ago, and they didn’t, and it’s no big deal, and they will be drilling shortly.
Maurice: Moving on to physical precious metals. You wrote a piece, recently, which is a must read, entitled “These 113 Analyst Believe Gold Will Go Parabolic to Three Thousand or More.” What compelled you to write this piece, and why now?
Bob: Well, here’s what’s very funny. I didn’t write the piece. The piece came out in 2011, okay. Now, I had been contacted in 2011, and the woman who wrote the piece wanted to know my prediction for gold, and I said, “Well, I’ll be happy to give you a prediction for gold.” “Tell me what the dollars going to be.” And she said, “Well, I have no idea what it’s going to be.” And I said, “Well, how can I tell you what gold’s going to be if you can’t tell me what the dollar’s going to be, because gold is the inverse of the dollar now.” We forget this, and we shouldn’t because it’s so basic. Anytime you’re talking about the price of any commodity, you’re talking about the commodity, and you’re talking about the currency it’s quoted in. Now, the funny thing is, gold had been up 12 years in a row, and everybody in the industry wanted to come out with an outrageous price.
Do you happen to know what the price of copper is today?
Maurice: $2.85 per pound.
Bob: From a mathematical point of view, if you wanted to predict the price of copper six months from now, from a mathematical point of view, what price should you predict? Because everything has to do with probability and permutations. If you know the price of copper, it’s $2.85 today, and you want to predict the price from six months from now, mathematically speaking, ignore your opinion, what price should you predict? $2.85.
Maurice: And that being because?
Bob: Everything goes up. We know that. And, everything goes down. And that fact of the matter is, all prices wobble up and down, and we forget that because we think, “I really like gold. I really like silver. I really like platinum. Therefore, it should go up every single day.” Well, markets don’t work that way. “Well, if it doesn’t go up every single day, it’s proof somebody’s manipulating it.” Well, actually, everything’s manipulated, so it’s not proof of anything.
What we forget that all of this variation in price has nothing to do with the commodity, and everything to do with the value of the dollar.When you include inflation, the value of the dollar changes every single day. Between noon today and noon tomorrow, the value of the U.S. dollar will change 10,000 times. Now, that’s actually insane from an economist point of view. If you’re a Martian and you came to earth and you found out the currency changed its value 10,000 times in a day, the Martian would say, “You know, you guys are all nuts down here,” and he would be correct.
But, in 2011 everybody watched gold go up 12 years in a row, so they thought, “well, mathematically, if it’s gone up 12 years in a row, that means it’s going to go up another 12 years in a row.” And they forgot things go up and things go down. It’s very funny because you look at those predictions seven years later, and we’ve got $1,200 and something gold, and you realize that people were being silly in their predictions. There are no experts, and there are no gurus, period.
Maurice: But, Bob, there is a way to navigate and make the value proposition, actually, work better for you, and I want to ask you this here. So, regarding physical precious metals, can you share with us, and you already have, but tell us why? What are you buying right now? You’re not buying gold.
Bob: No, as a matter of fact I sold gold here recently. This goes back to my basic thesis, and it’s the heart of the book, and it’s very important to understand. You buy things when they’re cheap and you sell them when they’re expensive. The ratio of silver and gold has varied from about 16:1, to 101:1 over the last hundred years. For 50 of those years, the price of gold was fixed. And for 50 of those years, the price gold and silver was variable. So, that should give you a good idea of the range. Now, the average over the last 100 years been 54:1; silver has gotten very cheap, else it has, literally in the last week where it was 86:1, and you go back to 2011, it got down to about 32:1 where silver was very expensive.
Everybody makes investing way too complicated because the first mistake they make is they listen to people who feed their fantasies. Okay. Would you vote for an honest politician?
Maurice: My answer is, I would.
Bob: If you voted for an honest politician, how many votes would he get in total?
Maurice: It sounds like probably would just be myself.
Bob: That’s correct, one vote. Politicians, television preachers and most financial analyst make their money, get their power, by feeding people’s fantasies. They tell people what they want to hear, and you’re always comfortable. If you got a certain belief set, if you believe that Catholics are horrible people, you want to go into a Baptist Church and listen to them talk about Catholics. If you think Muslims are horrible people, you want to go into a Catholic church and hear them talk about Muslims. We have prejudices. We have biases, and we listen to those people who feed those biases. I listen to TV preachers, and I’m sitting here thinking, how the hell could anybody listen to that unadulterated horse shit and send their money to these fools. But, the fools are the people in the audience throwing hundred dollar bills at people for telling what they want to hear.
And when you look at the state of politics in the United States, my God, it’s embarrassing. I mean, I can tell you because I spend a lot of time outside the United States, the rest of the world’s looking at the American political system saying, “You know, those people have gone off the deep end. They’re all crazy,” and they would be right.
Maurice: You know, what’s very important for our audience to understand here, is again, you didn’t say that silver is going to a certain numerical value. You just looked at the ratios between that and gold. Completely different perspective. I can share prior to me entering the public domain, I would listen to someone that would feed my paradigm, but silver is being manipulated, at the time, this is me 10 years ago entering the precious metals industry, and that silver’s going to hit this parabolic number of $150 to $200 any day now because of the Federal Reserve. And, that was my reasoning for purchasing physical silver, and then, I had the opportunity to be introduced to the likes of your work, and I shifted that paradigm, and took a more responsible approach, and I appreciate you so much sharing that. It’s a lesson that we all can learn from, and again, to learn more about lessons like that, the book that you’re referring to is “Nobody Know Anything.”
Bob: But, it’s as simple as you should buy what’s cheap, and you should sell what’s dear. Right now, silver’s cheap, gold’s expensive. Now, I’m not predicting $50,0000 silver. I’m not predicting $200 gold. I’m not predicting anything. I’m taking facts. The ratio has been 16:1, to 101:1, over 100 years. That should be the parameters. The average has been 54:1. Silver has spent less than 1% of the time over the last 100 years above 86:1. All investing is based on mathematics at its heart. A mathematical point of view, the chances that you’re profiting by buying silver and selling gold is 99%, and those are good odds.
Now, do I give a damn if silver goes down tomorrow? No. Okay. Same thing with platinum. My God, platinum’s the cheapest relative to gold it’s ever been in history. Yesterday, it was $460 an ounce cheaper than gold, yet for most of history since it was discovered in the 18th century, platinum’s had a premium to gold. So, buy platinum and sit.
Maurice: That’s exactly what we’re doing. We’re purchasing, very aggressively, both of those metals. May I ask you this as well? When you’re looking at buying your silver, are you looking at 100 ounce bars? Do you like government minted coins? Do you like rounds, junk silver? Tell us what you’re buying.
Bob: It’s funny you say that. I am cheap. Okay. Silver is silver is silver, and somebody contacted me and he had a good deal on 100 ounce bars. So, I bought 100 ounce bars. But, I would buy whatever is cheap. It’s all the same silver.
Maurice: Much agreed. I know some people have a certain perspective on getting government minted coins versus rounds, which are private minted coins, and I didn’t know if you had a particular interest in either one of those two.
Bob: It’s probably a good idea to have a variation. You can buy a tank of gas with a one ounce silver coin, but you can’t buy a tank of gas with a 100 ounce silver bar.
Maurice: True indeed. Bob, let’s shift our focus a little bit on something you and I both like to discuss as well, and let’s compare precious metals now with a different type of coin, bitcoin.
Bob: No. No. No. No. No. You mispronounced that word.
Maurice: I certainly did. Please share with the audience. What is the appropriate name for this.
Bob: Bitcon.
Maurice: And how rare is Bitcon, by the way.
Bob: How rare is salt water in the ocean.
Maurice: Well, I would say there’s a number of variations. Could you share with us, how many variations are there of Bitcon?
Bob: 2,513, roughly.
Maurice: And, isn’t that part of one of the big marketing aspects of Bitcon is that it’s supposed to be rare?
Bob: That’s not rare. You can’t have 2,513 variations and be considered rare.
Maurice: A year ago we had you on our show, and I believe at that time, we were looking at a $13,000 to $14,000 in U.S. currency on Bitcon, and today, we’re looking at $3,400. Is that correct? And, your analysis at that time, it was going to go its intrinsic value of zero. So, it appears to be heading that direction.
Bob: Allow me to ask you a question, because actually, we’re lower than $3,400 right now. If people would take the knowledge that they have, and their common sense, and some logic, they wouldn’t need to listen to experts. They wouldn’t need to listen to gurus. What is the value of a 99 cent stuffed toy?
Maurice: At the current market price, then it would be 99 cents.
Bob: Okay. What is the value of a Beanie Baby?
Maurice: Assuming that is the same toy that you’re referring to, then I would say 99 cents.
Bob: Everything, eventually, returns to its real value. Beanie Babies were going for thousands of dollars because, supposedly, they were rare, and it was this everybody wanted to jump in and everybody wanted to collect, and they thought they were valuable because they were rare. They were 99 cent stuffed toys.
Bob’s Wife: And we collected them.
Bob: That’s my wife and Mr. Brown.
Bob’s Wife: We got to them.
Maurice: And, introducing into the conversation, Bob, who do you have there with you?
Bob: Oh, that’s my wife, Mr. Brown, her pet stuffed sheep.
Maurice: And, Mr. Brown, is he valued at 99 cents as well?
Bob: No. He’s valued a lot higher than that. If my wife had the choice to get rid of me or get rid of Mr. Brown, it’s like no choice at all. Let’s go back to Bitcon and Beanie Babies. Which of those have value?
Maurice: Assuming for a child, they have some type of intrinsic value, but to someone purchasing it, I guess the current market price.
Bob: Well, no. Current market price could be absolutely incorrect.
Maurice: That’s correct because the value at one time was significantly higher.
Bob: Correct.
Maurice: Bob, you make a good point there.
Bob: The strange thing is, when Beanie Babies were selling for thousands of dollars, it was because they were mispriced because everybody was chasing the fear of missing out. You’ve must have Beanie Babies was the narrative at the time. The key here is, at the very worst, Beanie Babies still are 79 cent, or 89 cent, or 99 cent toys. So, let’s take that over to Bitcon and the 2,513 variations. What real value did they have? What intrinsic value is there there?
Maurice: I don’t see one.
Bob: Well, yeah. I see one. I know exactly what the real value is.
Maurice: And what is that?
Bob: You can too if you think about it.
Maurice: Alright, please share with us, sir.
Bob: Zero.
Maurice: That was my point.
Bob: You said you didn’t see it.
Maurice: My apologies, I was inferring, zero.
Bob: I went through and I re-read some of what I was saying last December. I did conducted a number of interviews because I was totally convinced Bitcon was at the top. I sought every measure that you would use to call the top of a bubble in December, but there were only 1,300 or 1,400 variations of Bitcon a year ago. That’s almost doubled, yet the price of Bitcon has gone from $20,000 to $3,400. Bitcon gone down over 80%, but is there anything preventing it from going to zero? Actually, the only thing preventing it is the number of fools in the world who still believe there is some value there.
There is no value there. There is nothing now. There was nothing a year ago, and there’s going to be nothing 10 years from now. Bitcon doesn’t have the value of a Beanie Baby, and this electronic Beanie Baby made of bits and bytes of no particular value, and the mere fact that it’s the biggest bubble in world history, okay, should tell you something. But, over $700 billion disappeared into Bitcon heaven.
Maurice: It’s important to note, as you were speaking here, I’m thinking, Bitcon, and a con artist tries to emulate and fool. When I look at every image I ever see of Bitcon, they make it look like a gold coin.
Bob: They make it look like a coin and the funny thing is, there weren’t any coins. There wasn’t anything.
Maurice: Absolutely. And, then they also use mining terms, like you’re mining bitcoin. That’s what imposter does. An imposter, as we’re referencing it appropriately here, Bitcon, the name fits very well.
Bob: But, here’s what really funny. There were two arguments. One is, that it’s some kind of electronic money, which it’s not. And the other is that it’s rare, and it’s certainly not rare, not with 2,513 variations of it. People are starting to wake up. But, it has been fraud from the get go. It was a bubble. The current bubble right now is marijuana. And, I’ll go you one better, and you’re going to have to guess at the answer here. What’s going to be the big bubble in 2019, or 2020, and 2021?
Maurice: Big bubble. You’re putting me on the spot here.
Bob: Damn straight I am.
Maurice: Let me ask you this then. Are we referring to a natural resource here, by chance?
Bob: Yep.
Maurice: For some reason, my initial instinct is saying lithium.
Bob: It’s already been on the bubble.
Maurice: Alright. If not lithium…
Bob: This new bubble is absolutely the equivalent of Bitcon and marijuana. We’re going to have a bubble that’s just going to go sky high. Everybody’s going to jump into, everybody’s going to think it’s the greatest thing in the world, and everybody’s going to buy it, and they’re going to drive the price up right to the root. What is it?
Maurice: Then, if it’s not lithium, then how about vanadium?
Bob: How about gold?
Maurice: Gold. Interesting. I was thinking more of on the base metals side here. Okay.
Bob: Here’s what’s crazy. Can you name a commodity that is incapable of going in a bubble?
Maurice: No, sir.
Bob: We’ve had stock market bubbles. We’ve had real estate market bubbles. We’ve had Bitcon bubbles. We’ve had marijuana bubbles. We had a silver bubble in 1980. Gold is going to have a bubble. Period. But, the purpose for me writing the book “Nobody Knows Anything” was to allow people to learn that they’re capable of thinking for themselves. There is going to come a time when gold’s expensive, silver’s expensive, platinum’s expensive, palladium’s expensive, rhodium’s expensive, and what do you do when they all get expensive?
Maurice: You should sell.
Bob: You better sell.
Maurice: Bob, as always, thank you for sharing your insights. Last question. What did I forget to ask?
Bob: You forgot to ask me about the book, “How to Invest In Natural Resource Companies.”
Maurice: Absolutely. What can you share with us?
Bob: What book?
Wife: What book?
Maurice: The book on “How to Invest In Natural Resource Companies.”
Bob: I think that’s a great idea. I think somebody really needs to dig in, get to work and start writing the book.
Maurice: Can you give us an update on that person who might be writing that book?
Bob: You’re coming in really broken. I’m having a hard time hearing you.
Maurice: Bob, you’ve got fill us in here. You’ve shared with us over a year ago that you’ll be writing a book, and a number of speculators have been waiting.
Bob: I can see your lips move, but I can’t hear anything you’re saying.
Maurice: For audience members, he’s pulling my leg here, and pulling your leg as well.
Bob: I have all the intentions in the world. I’ve started the book. I will do it.
Maurice: And you want to leave it at that? How about for 2019? Is that on the outlook there? Is that something on the horizon that. . .
Bob: Yeah. Yeah. 2019’s good. It give me a lot of time to come up with new excuses.
Maurice: Okay. Well, before we leave here, I reference Bob Moriarty’s two books, “The Art of Peace,” and “Nobody Knows Anything.” You can order your copy under our education tab. Proven and Probable does not receive any financial for selling or advertising. But, we see these books as a must have for your library. We’ve benefited financially from applying the axioms in the book. Bob, for someone listening who wants to get more information on your work, please share the websites.
Bob: 321 Gold, and 321 Energy. They’re free sites, and they are valuable.
Maurice: And, if you’re looking to sell or buy physical precious metals, we welcome a conversation. Please email me at maurice@milesfranklin.com or call me directly at 919-274-5680. And last but not least, please visit our website www.provenandprobable.com where we interview the most respected names in the natural resource space. If you would like to have a discussion regarding precious metals, please contact us at maurice@milesfranklin.com.
Bob Moriarty of 321 Gold, and 321Energy.com, thank you for joining us today on Proven and Probable.
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JAYANT BHANDARI | Trump: Why I am Increasingly a Fan, and about Resource Stocks

Trump: Why I am Increasingly a Fan

ValOro Resources (VRO), etc.

As time has gone by I have grown increasing respectful of Trump. Not only he is doing what he said he would, but he is also among those rare people who understand the problems that the West faces. Trump is having to deal with the massive problems that the earlier—short-terministic, populist and vision-less—regimes left behind. But people’s failure to put issues into perspective means that it is Trump who gets the blame. That is why I don’t like democracy, for most people use soundbite-level, isolated information—mostly rationalizations—to reach conclusions. Or more accurately they look for justifications for their emotions.
Despite all its flaws, the USA is still among the best places in the world.
As a child, I often dreamt of emigrating to America. America’s military-industrial complex rightly has a bad name. But, alas, if I had a switch to get rid of it, I would not use it. Without US interference, the world would be an extremely unstable place. For example, had the USA not interfered, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Brazil, Libya, etc. would have all had nuclear weapons. Perhaps humanity would have seized to exist. Without US interference, the Third World tyrannies, tribal-warfare and massacres would have been much worse, which would have rightly kept their population-number under control, but also refugees would have flooded the West:

On investments…
Linked is a recent discussion with Cory Fleck on how I go about investing in the mining sector. In the same talk I mention a few stocks.
Here are some more that I like:

  • Novo Resources (NVO; C$1.95): At the current price, the market likely gives NVO value only for its cash and Beatons Creek project. The upside from conglomerate deposits is available mostly for free.
  • Altus Strategies (ALTS; C$0.045): I spent the last month in the UK, including visiting with ALTS management and some of its key shareholders. I am concerned about their G&A expenses, which have been too high for my comfort. But for now, the market capitalization is comparable to the share ownership that ALTS will eventually have of Canyon Resources, an ASX-listed company.
  • De Grey Mining (DEG; A$0.12): The situation here is similar to that of NVO, although I don’t know their management much. Their current market capitalization likely gives zero value to the conglomerate areas.
  • Amarillo Gold (AGC; C$0.20): AGC over the last few months has cleaned up their balance sheet by getting rid of the debt they had, sold a royalty to Royal Gold for a very good price, and have done a lot of work on the project. They currently have six drill-rigs at the project, drilling 15,000 meters. They expect new resources by the end of January 2019. Feasibility and basic engineering are expected in August 2019. The market is rightly worried about the country risk. And my superficial look at the latest financials tells me that their G&A expenses have gone up significantly. I hope they will be able to control it going forward.
  • ValOro Resources (VRO: C$0.11): VRO is being acquired. There is a nice arbitrage upside.
  • FPX Nickel (FPX; C$0.08): I am invested in this company not only because of the value I see, which might improve significantly when they have optimized the metallurgy, but also because their CEO, Martin Turenne, is one of the smartest young people I have known in the industry. He understands the macro issues driving the market and is a delight to discuss those issues with, which when the time comes, will enable him to look for the right majors to do off-take agreements with or to sell the project to.

On other matters…
Videos of last year’s Capitalism & Morality are now available. They are linked here.
The next Capitalism & Morality will be held on 3rd August 2019. Please register using the Paypal button on this page, if you haven’t already done so. One-third of the seats are already gone, and being a capitalist I do increase the ticket price—very substantially—as we get closer to the event.
Warm regards,

Jayant Bhandari

Associate: Rajni Bala

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